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Battlefield 3 L85A2 / SA80

The L85A2 assault rifle in Battlefield 3 (or SA80 as it’s known), is an weapon that’s part of the ¬†Back To Karkand¬†expansion pack. The L85, or SA80, is a British-made bullpup assault rifle that’s been in use for decades in the British military, and will be available for the Assault class in Battlefield 3.

L85A2 / SA80 stats

  • Firing modes: single shot/3 round burst/full auto
  • Maximum effective range: 500 Meters
  • Rate of fire: 650 RPM
  • Magazine capacity: 30 rounds
  • Weight: 3.8 KG

L85A2 / SA80 unlocks

 


84 COMMENTS & TRACKBACKS

  1. wetrox47
    November 10th, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    I just Hope this weapon got his originaly acog sight

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    • ukkie2000
      November 11th, 2011 at 12:54 pm

      Probably not ;l i remember in the original fault line trailers you could still see the iron sight with the acog on the M4. they removed it. its funny because you can actually see your ironsight disappear when you try zooming.

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    • kasuki
      November 17th, 2011 at 11:01 pm

      Its a SUSAT and it probably wount be on there

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      • FDSDH 011i
        November 27th, 2011 at 4:23 pm

        they are getting rid of the susats now

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        • HArry
          November 30th, 2011 at 10:11 am

          It’s a shame the susat wont be on there, that is a great scope especially for medium and close ranges.

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        • HArry
          November 30th, 2011 at 10:11 am

          It’s a shame the susat wont be on there, that is a great scope especially for medium and close ranges.

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        • Chris4687
          December 5th, 2011 at 7:49 pm

          the SUSAT aint gettin rid of….where did u hear that? im in the army and we using the SUSAT and the ACOG

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        • FDSDH 011i
          December 7th, 2011 at 8:27 pm

          the Royal Marines no longer use susats they were replaced they were replaced by acog type sights

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        • dafty duck
          December 18th, 2011 at 11:58 am

          Does this mean us REMFs will finally get issued to old SUSATs?

          God I’m going to miss humphing my gat around Catterick by it’s “carry handle”

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      • ja124816
        January 4th, 2012 at 2:20 am

        it is

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        • Gibbsy
          January 23rd, 2012 at 2:01 am

          I’m pretty sure they’re going to start phasing out the SUSATs for the Elcan Spectre DRs soon. Which can usually be switched between 1X and 4X but the British versions will be stuck at 4X mag. They also feature in this game, but under a different name and a 3.4x mag instead.

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        • shopts
          March 10th, 2012 at 5:39 pm

          Gibbsy:

          The sight in the game is the old Elcan sight, now named the “Elcan SpecterM145.” The 3.4 magnification is correct.

          The SpecterDR is a fancier sight.

          I see ACOGs on newer L85s, not SpecterDRs.

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    • SF Resiqn
      April 9th, 2012 at 7:26 pm

      The scope is actually called a SUSAT sight (scope). I’m British and in the cadets and we spend hours learning the ins and outs of this particular weapon. :D

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      • ruskibbg
        November 17th, 2012 at 10:44 am

        I’m guessing you’re army cadets then seeing as you use the l85a1/a2

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        • Lewis boyed
          March 31st, 2013 at 10:51 pm

          The army cadets use a very similar version to the l85 A2, the l98 A2. The only difference being the removal of fully automatic fire resulting in the weapon being stuck in semi automatic. As they dont trust cadets with low ranks being able to let off 30 rounds in near about 8 seconds.

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        • TF Tracker
          April 4th, 2013 at 10:37 am

          The L85A2 is used by the army and sea cadets and we are thought the inside out learning but the air cadets use the L98A2 cadet go rifle or the No.8 bolt action so all cadet unit no ,after if they are air sea or land all use variations of the L85A2

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  2. Chris
    November 13th, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    Are they going to make it jam if it gets dust, water, sand, dirt…or practically anything else anywhere near it?!

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    • FDSDH 011i
      November 17th, 2011 at 4:59 pm

      HK fixed all the problems

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    • RWJP
      December 3rd, 2011 at 3:40 pm

      What’s it like living in the 1990s still?

      H&K (who were owned by BAE at the time) upgraded all of the SA80 family to the new A2 specification in the early 2000s. The original A1 variants were dodgy, but the A2 variants are far better, and are widely regarded as some of the best service rifles available today. An L85A2 will out-perform an M16A4 or M4A1 any day.

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      • L'CPL Murdoch
        December 6th, 2011 at 4:54 pm

        too right man

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      • BerthaLynn
        December 14th, 2011 at 6:35 pm

        Is this the rifle that will knock your jaw off if you try to fire left handed? (Due to the charging handle so far to the rear)

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        • dafty duck
          December 18th, 2011 at 12:00 pm

          It’s the rifle that can only be fired from the right shoulder, reason for that being so if you lose yours or it’s damaged you can just pick up any other one and not have to worry about it being a lefty or a righty.

          But yes, non UK forces do sometimes end up with a sore face when they try and use the devils hand sometimes.

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      • ruskibbg
        November 17th, 2012 at 10:50 am

        No it won’t, the Americans have far superior weapons to the British, coming from a British person myself. What we do have that is superior to them is skill, they use the same technique as the Russians, strength in numbers and firepower.

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        • Jamie
          March 27th, 2013 at 12:58 pm

          Couldn’t agree more haha. Thats why our special forces are using the yankees rifles. However, i do love Enfeilds rifles despite there reputation for blockages, they are very comfortable to carry and fire..

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    • ruskibbg
      November 17th, 2012 at 10:46 am

      The thing never jams anymore, that was ages ago… The marines are swapping them for ‘sharpshooters, now.

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  3. FDSDH 011i
    November 13th, 2011 at 4:22 pm

    I hope they include the new rail set and grenade launcher as well as the ACOG

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  4. JonnyEddie
    November 16th, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    Chris the L85>A2A1< is the one you're thinking about; Both weapons are highly accurate and are a serious milestone in bullpup firearms.
    I hope they add the SUSAT and L22A2 as a "Carbine" for the Engineer class and maybe the L86A2 LSW but im not sure, the LSW is no longer used for a Suppression role. It's been designated as a Marksman rifle so it would be best suited for the Recon class which is a shame, i dislike that class except for the MAV.

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    • maks
      November 18th, 2011 at 4:48 am

      lol the MAV is why i dislike that class, how can one soldier carry a full 80-100+ pound robot, dont understand….

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      • bob
        November 18th, 2011 at 4:45 pm

        steriods???

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        • Shifty
          November 23rd, 2011 at 5:05 pm

          Video game?

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      • Menno
        December 15th, 2011 at 11:32 am

        how would someone carry 10 freaking rocket warheads? or 3 javelins that usually are carried in 2 parts by 2 soldiers?
        Videogames man, it makes you stronger then rambo!

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        • DDP73
          December 17th, 2011 at 1:57 pm

          Not forgetting a 60mm mortar weighing nearly 50lbs with an unlimited supply of ammunition, each round weighing another 3.5lbs. Which of course is on top of that GPMG and 400 rounds. They should remove the sprint button and replace it with ‘waddle slightly faster and hope you don’t stumble button’.

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  5. D4NgER_KLoSe
    November 17th, 2011 at 7:35 am

    I hope DICE don’t forget these weapon has a special acog, and I saw the list of attachmens, no hand grip?????????..only bipod????…

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    • Luke
      November 22nd, 2011 at 3:30 pm

      It’s called a Susat scope mate, and it most likely won’t be in the game. Otherwise they would have shown it in the trailers. Besides, a new scope means they’d have to make it fit every other gun in the game, and I’m pretty sure they can’t be bothered to do that.

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      • RoZzez
        November 25th, 2011 at 3:59 pm

        you cant have grip on a bullpup..

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        • HarvHR
          December 6th, 2011 at 7:24 am

          No, you cant put grips on bullpups like the A-91 but that coes they are small. L85 foregrips do get issued.

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        • ruskibbg
          November 17th, 2012 at 10:53 am

          Oh dear… Yes you can seeing as you get a foregrip issued in the rm commandos and army..

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        • Jamie
          March 27th, 2013 at 1:04 pm

          You can, theres a rail system you can attach instead of the hand guard, i believe its made by DD’s Rail Systems in the US. The hand grips the British Forces use also have a retractable bipod in the grip..

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  6. FDSDH 011i
    November 17th, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    it says single shot/3 round burst/ full auto but L85A2′s don’t do 3 round burst

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    • Setthawit 117
      November 24th, 2011 at 10:12 pm

      So why does it have 3 switches? auto, burst and semi? have you even held an l85a2/sa80?

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      • Ed
        November 25th, 2011 at 11:08 am

        It doesn’t have a burst mode.

        Trust me.

        It has a selector lever at the back end of the rifle on the left of the receiver, R for semi and A for auto. Or R for repetition and A for auto (or America lol).

        Then the safety is ahead of the trigger and you push it through the rifle to switch it on or off, like with paintball guns. I don’t know what you’re on about when you say it has 3 switches. It doesn’t.

        There definitely isn’t a burst.

        Plus, the photo at the top of the page is an A1, not an A2. I hope Dice sort all this crap out before they release the expansion.

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      • RWJP
        December 3rd, 2011 at 3:35 pm

        Have YOU ever held an L85?

        Apparently not.

        There are two switches on the L85 (and the rest of the SA80 family) that control firing. One is just in front of and above the trigger, which sets the rifle between ‘Safe’ and ‘Fire’. The second is positioned at the back of the rifle, behind the mag-well, and sets the ‘Fire’ setting between ‘R’ (Repeat) and ‘A’ (Auto).

        None of the SA80 family has ever been fitted with a three round-burst capable firing mechanim. Safe/Semi/Auto only.

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      • FDSDH 011i
        December 7th, 2011 at 8:32 pm

        Ive stripped down an L98A2 and there is no evidence of burst fire, you can see where the fire selector was when it was or if it ever was and L85A2 and there are only 2 settings

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        • Johno
          December 13th, 2011 at 11:45 pm

          The L98A1 is a cadet GP rifle. Is doesn’t even have a full auto capability, and has an adapted cocking handle. The weapon is fired single shot only and unless using a BFA it is required to be re-cocked every time.

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        • FDSDH 011i
          December 16th, 2011 at 12:21 pm

          the l98a2 is semi automatic and a check is carried out each time it is cleaned to make sure it is not shooting fully automatic

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      • SETTHAWIT 117
        May 17th, 2012 at 9:25 pm

        Oops sorry bad memory, I check it again, only 2 switches. Dam I haven’t held it in a long time

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  7. D34DP00L.|NC
    November 18th, 2011 at 1:57 am

    woot woot the return of my favourtie medic/assault rifle

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  8. Cressweed
    November 20th, 2011 at 12:42 pm

    This gun better be portrayed properly. I’m fed up of game developers overlooking British weapons and then when they do put them in they are crap (I’m looking at you Infinity Ward). An ACOG on it I don’t mind, seen as the British Army is fazing out the SUSAT as it is terrible, but it better be able to have a foregrip.

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    • Bryon
      February 18th, 2012 at 4:23 pm

      The SUSAT Isn’t a terrible sight just because you can’t shoot with one properly doesn’t mean it’s bad

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      • TH4 B1ZZL3
        February 18th, 2012 at 11:05 pm

        it is a terrible sight otherwise they wouldnt be replacing them

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        • RAF Armourer
          April 29th, 2012 at 5:47 pm

          No, it’s being phased out because it’s old.
          Besides most of the squaddies who now have ACOG would much rather trade it for back for their SUSAT. I’ve heard little but complaints from the regiment and army air corps on my base about ACOG sights

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  9. joshua
    November 21st, 2011 at 11:36 am

    okay i went through the attachments and there missing two of the standard attachments for this gun the new SA80-A2 is standard attached with a fore-grip bar and a flash suppressor and that’s just standard attachment you cant even unlock them??? :/

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    • FDSDH 011i
      November 27th, 2011 at 4:28 pm

      yeah i know what you mean in the trailer it didn’t appear to have the new rail set they’ve given it,
      http://images.wikia.com/guns/images/f/fd/L85a2_ris_acog.jpg

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      • HarvHR
        December 6th, 2011 at 7:28 am

        I think that’s the new carbine version, like the L22 with a few differences like an extended barrel.

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        • Sam
          December 7th, 2011 at 1:20 pm

          Nope, that’s a new rail they’re issuing for the L85. Goes with the foregrip and LLM they’re giving out now.

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  10. Jim
    November 23rd, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    L85/SA80s don’t come with SUSAT or Foregrip as standard, they are added as a part of a field/operational requirement package for personnel deploying to theater, all other rifles just have standard green muzzle cover and majority still have iron sights.

    The L22 would be good for the engineer class, seen as it’s what the M4 is to the M16.

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  11. Jonny
    November 25th, 2011 at 10:14 am

    I hope they have it in the game and at least make it good i mean treyarch, infinity award all make them crap come on bf designers make the SA80 how it sould be high powered and good at range with acog as the best attactment for this weapon.

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    • FDSDH 011i
      November 27th, 2011 at 4:24 pm

      infinity ward have the A1 LSW (its the cocking handle)

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  12. Seb
    November 27th, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    Lets hope its the upgraded H&C version as that is a great AR. Plus the SUSAT is a attachment so is the FOREGRIP along with a 40m GRENADE LAUNCHER they do not come as standard. During training you first fire this weapon using the ironsights. It also does NOT do 3 round bursts. The new version is a much underrated weapon.

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  13. Recoil1986
    December 2nd, 2011 at 3:31 pm

    Ok ex British Armed Forces here to clear things up alittle

    No 3 round burst on the rifle

    No standerd attachments just iron sights

    SUSAT Sight is in the process of being phased out but is still in use alongside the Acog scope

    Foregrip is an optional attachment only compatable with the new grip

    Green muzzle cover is still in use alongside the new one old green muzzle cover is being phased out

    The L85A2 does not jam due to dust or water and can be used in the harshest enviroments this was the main reason to HK upgrading the L85A1 to the L85A2 the A2 has all of the A1s advantages and none of it’s weaknesses

    The A2 is heavy at the back end due to all mechanical parts being towards the rear of the gun this not only makes it one of the worlds most accurate rifles but it also reduces recoil considerably the weapon itself is highly accurate even in full auto (which is rarely used due to ammunition wastage it is used as a Semi Automatic rifle 95% of the time)

    I wouldnt want to go into a combat situation with any weapons other then

    L85A2, M4A1, MP5, HK M416
    These are the top modernised weapons in use today all sporting low recoil high accuracy

    And if anyone tells you any different then they don’t know weapons they only know what games and movies tell them and let’s face it how often do you see people reload in most movies

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    • A1C Gilliam
      December 13th, 2011 at 12:22 am

      I’d take the MK17 over any AR in service. USAF EOD and I’ve used it in all types of environments. Jams LITERALLY once in every 7500 rounds. And when it does, it’s a simple 5 sec fix. Hard hitting 7.62×51 round and very controllable even in full auto. Which, like you mentioned, is rarely used due to the waste in ammo. I’m tired of it being called a “carbine”. Special Combat Assault Rifle…not carbine. I’m VERY exited to see the SA80 series of weapons introduced into BF. make no mistake bullpup style weapons are the future of firearms. Small, compact, accurate, and easy to handle. Not to mention they are just sexy. Can’t say I’ve field stripped let alone seen a bullpup rifle but Im sure I would love them. Only speculation I can throw out is complication in cleaning and barrel changes (and other nesessary actions) and perhaps a bit more awkward loading. But as I’ve said I’ve never even seen one in person so I could be totally wrong.

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  14. RWJP
    December 3rd, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    3 Round Burst?

    Since when?

    L85s have always been Safe/Semi/Auto.

    Standard issue L85A2s have nothing on them, until the soldier gets to theatre. When they’re out in theatre they have the new rail system, ACOG (or Elcan Specter) and vertical foregrip issued to them.

    Ideally the unlocks for this should include:
    Grip (changes the standard handguard to the railed version)
    ACOG (BF3 is set in 2014, so the SUSAT will be gone by then)
    M320 (re-skinned as the L123A2 UGL)
    M145 (preferably re-skinned as the Elcan Specter OS)
    Flash-Hider
    Tactical Light and Laser (rolled in to one as the LLM)

    Everything else is pretty much unnecessary. Suppressors are never issued, neither are red dots, and Russian optics would never be used either. You might be able to justify using a holo-sight as they have been used as sights for the UGL before.

    At least from some of the trailers so far the gun looks pretty much correct, shame about the 3 Round Burst, but then they did exactly the same to the M416…

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  15. HarvHR
    December 4th, 2011 at 8:29 am

    Guys, the sa80 won’t have a susat, well, because there bad. In real life, if our troops in afghan get the chance they put acogs on. Go google images and you will see sa80s in afghan with acogs. Also, haven’t you seen? In the ps3 (maybe xbox and pc aswell) my soldier you can view all BTK guns, and the sa80 looks sexy.

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  16. brian
    December 5th, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    since when can you not have a grim on a bullput rifle mine has 1 and a bipod tuked away in the grip

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  17. brian
    December 5th, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    ment grip lol

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  18. Craig
    December 15th, 2011 at 6:09 pm

    Anyone know how to unlock this weapon quickly??

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  19. lewis
    December 20th, 2011 at 3:25 pm

    what assault lvl do you have to be to unlock it

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  20. foxual13 PS3
    December 20th, 2011 at 9:39 pm

    It is unlocked through an assignment. You need to unlock the famas first then you need 100 assault rifle kills, 20 underslung grenade launcher kills and 5 x squad team death match wins. The gun is sexy as fuck, low recoil, not much rpm and not the maximum damage but reload is quick.

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  21. simon
    December 22nd, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    The SUSAT is going from the Infantry. Infantry will get the ACOG (even though it’s crap, same magnification as the susat and it isn’t squady proof!) 1st and then the SUSAT’s will be passed on to the other trades i.e RAMC, RLC Royal Signals etc.

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  22. Michael Bailey
    December 26th, 2011 at 10:58 am

    ya’ll can say an L85 will outshoot and M16 or an M4 anyday. but the dude behind the weapon is the one taking the shot… and you can’t outshoot the United States Marine Corps!! Ooh-Rah!!

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    • Kieran
      December 28th, 2011 at 5:50 pm

      Uhm… I sort of believe they can… USMC formed in WWII. Most of our shooters that handle Sniper rifles or Designated marksman Rifles could easily out shoot a USMC Sniper…

      However as we’re on about an Assault rifle here. I’m guessing our Royal Marines or Special Air Service can.

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    • a british sniper
      January 25th, 2012 at 1:03 pm

      @ michael bailey i am a royal marine sf sniper, i train the USMC and to be perfectly honest they cant shoot for s**t. i could probably out shoot a marine using his m16 w/acog with an A2 iron sight at 300 meters. jus saying. the A2 is a good weapons platform co-developed my 2 of the worlds best weapons manufacturers- heckler & kock and accuracy international (developers of the L98 (discont.), AS50 and L115A1 [my rifle]) the USMC are all bigged up on their own egos and dont realise that their british counterparts have became better than them. you can argue back about this but there are a lot of squaddies on here that will probably back me up on this one. also to anyone else L85′s are issued with grips, bipod-grips, UGL’s and a tac light laser sight combo. i can also equip a small SOF-LAM type designator on mine.

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      • Jamie
        March 27th, 2013 at 1:22 pm

        Haha! I couldn’t agree more with you mate.

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    • Bryon
      February 18th, 2012 at 4:28 pm

      So you’re saying a bunch of inbred hicks are better at shooting than some of the finest shots in the world (unless they were an army cadet in which case they will be inbred too)

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  23. 54MW1CH24
    January 7th, 2012 at 5:51 am

    The only problem I have is the SQDM challenge. I consider myself pretty good, but I always join the worst squad.

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    • foolishmortal
      January 8th, 2012 at 4:09 pm

      Adding a few people who play with more situational awareness than a bowl of fruit, to your friends list can help you. Also mics. And a strategy or two. For one nasty little example, pick a building, sniper up top, 3 others patrol not too far around it. Put the mighty smackdown on anyone daring to approach your little castle. You’ll be surprised how many lone wolf doofuses try to rush you over and over hoping to get revenge, only to get more smacking. The kills rack up and your squad wins. At least thats how it was with my little clan versus said doofuses.

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      • a british sniper
        January 25th, 2012 at 1:14 pm

        the doofuses you refer to are refered to as CoD players. you know, the ones with no tactical mindset or actual battlefield (reality not the game) experience. call of duty is far to unrealistic and the CoD players who get battlefield dont resalise that a 4 man fire team can easily hold off a 2 story building (or a warehouse in the middle east from advancing russians lol) from a platoon, sometimes even a company( ammo dependant) without any CAS or ground FSG. battlefield is the game for real soldiers, air men and navy personell ( oh and the USMC). who want a break from the war!

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        • Anonymous
          September 24th, 2012 at 1:53 pm

          As if BF3 even needed a tactical mindset. Where the hell are you people getting the idea that this game is realistic or requires 1337 skills? Don’t get me wrong, I like the game, but it’s not what most people say it is.

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  24. MRLoadingERROR
    January 27th, 2012 at 7:13 pm

    This gun, the HK M416, the Remington ACR and the SCAR-L are probably the only guns that I feel safe with.I’ve shot them all, but the L85A2 is my favourite, its like a laser beam.Really accurate gun.

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  25. DogBreath
    April 2nd, 2012 at 9:23 am

    There is another attachment that game-designers overlook, which is the bayonet. I think its a good idea; the bayonet fits over the barrel, but is offset, so that the user can still fire the weapon whilst it is attached.
    Also, what noob thinks that the L85A2 has burst fire?!

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    • DogBreath
      April 2nd, 2012 at 8:36 pm

      Oh, I have a varied list of stuff I can say which is wrong with game designers and research;
      In MW2, the L86 is rather a good weapon, but the grip is too long for a regular L86, there is no real drum mag for it (from what I can tell) and the reload action is used with the wrong hand: as with many other weapons, you keep the trigger hand on the grip.

      If anyone wants to shoot me, I strongly recommend that you do.

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