BF3 SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
The L85A2 assault rifle in Battlefield 3 (or SA80 as it’s known), is an weapon that’s part of the Back To Karkand expansion pack. The L85, or SA80, is a British-made bullpup assault rifle that’s been in use for decades in the British military, and will be available for the Assault class in Battlefield 3.
L85A2 / SA80 stats
- Firing modes: single shot/3 round burst/full auto
- Maximum effective range: 500 Meters
- Rate of fire: 650 RPM
- Magazine capacity: 30 rounds
- Weight: 3.8 KG
L85A2 / SA80 unlocks
- ACOG 4X scope
- RX01 sight
- EOtech holographic sight
- M145, 3.4X scope
- Infrared sight
- Heavy barrel
- M26 MASS
- Bipod
- Flashlight
- Laser sight
- M320 grenade launcher
I just Hope this weapon got his originaly acog sight
Probably not ;l i remember in the original fault line trailers you could still see the iron sight with the acog on the M4. they removed it. its funny because you can actually see your ironsight disappear when you try zooming.
Its a SUSAT and it probably wount be on there
they are getting rid of the susats now
It’s a shame the susat wont be on there, that is a great scope especially for medium and close ranges.
It’s a shame the susat wont be on there, that is a great scope especially for medium and close ranges.
the SUSAT aint gettin rid of….where did u hear that? im in the army and we using the SUSAT and the ACOG
the Royal Marines no longer use susats they were replaced they were replaced by acog type sights
Does this mean us REMFs will finally get issued to old SUSATs?
God I’m going to miss humphing my gat around Catterick by it’s “carry handle”
it is
I’m pretty sure they’re going to start phasing out the SUSATs for the Elcan Spectre DRs soon. Which can usually be switched between 1X and 4X but the British versions will be stuck at 4X mag. They also feature in this game, but under a different name and a 3.4x mag instead.
Gibbsy:
The sight in the game is the old Elcan sight, now named the “Elcan SpecterM145.” The 3.4 magnification is correct.
The SpecterDR is a fancier sight.
I see ACOGs on newer L85s, not SpecterDRs.
The scope is actually called a SUSAT sight (scope). I’m British and in the cadets and we spend hours learning the ins and outs of this particular weapon.
I’m guessing you’re army cadets then seeing as you use the l85a1/a2
The army cadets use a very similar version to the l85 A2, the l98 A2. The only difference being the removal of fully automatic fire resulting in the weapon being stuck in semi automatic. As they dont trust cadets with low ranks being able to let off 30 rounds in near about 8 seconds.
The L85A2 is used by the army and sea cadets and we are thought the inside out learning but the air cadets use the L98A2 cadet go rifle or the No.8 bolt action so all cadet unit no ,after if they are air sea or land all use variations of the L85A2
Are they going to make it jam if it gets dust, water, sand, dirt…or practically anything else anywhere near it?!
HK fixed all the problems
What’s it like living in the 1990s still?
H&K (who were owned by BAE at the time) upgraded all of the SA80 family to the new A2 specification in the early 2000s. The original A1 variants were dodgy, but the A2 variants are far better, and are widely regarded as some of the best service rifles available today. An L85A2 will out-perform an M16A4 or M4A1 any day.
too right man
Is this the rifle that will knock your jaw off if you try to fire left handed? (Due to the charging handle so far to the rear)
It’s the rifle that can only be fired from the right shoulder, reason for that being so if you lose yours or it’s damaged you can just pick up any other one and not have to worry about it being a lefty or a righty.
But yes, non UK forces do sometimes end up with a sore face when they try and use the devils hand sometimes.
No it won’t, the Americans have far superior weapons to the British, coming from a British person myself. What we do have that is superior to them is skill, they use the same technique as the Russians, strength in numbers and firepower.
Couldn’t agree more haha. Thats why our special forces are using the yankees rifles. However, i do love Enfeilds rifles despite there reputation for blockages, they are very comfortable to carry and fire..
The thing never jams anymore, that was ages ago… The marines are swapping them for ‘sharpshooters, now.
I hope they include the new rail set and grenade launcher as well as the ACOG
Chris the L85>A2A1< is the one you're thinking about; Both weapons are highly accurate and are a serious milestone in bullpup firearms.
I hope they add the SUSAT and L22A2 as a "Carbine" for the Engineer class and maybe the L86A2 LSW but im not sure, the LSW is no longer used for a Suppression role. It's been designated as a Marksman rifle so it would be best suited for the Recon class which is a shame, i dislike that class except for the MAV.
lol the MAV is why i dislike that class, how can one soldier carry a full 80-100+ pound robot, dont understand….
steriods???
Video game?
how would someone carry 10 freaking rocket warheads? or 3 javelins that usually are carried in 2 parts by 2 soldiers?
Videogames man, it makes you stronger then rambo!
Not forgetting a 60mm mortar weighing nearly 50lbs with an unlimited supply of ammunition, each round weighing another 3.5lbs. Which of course is on top of that GPMG and 400 rounds. They should remove the sprint button and replace it with ‘waddle slightly faster and hope you don’t stumble button’.
I hope DICE don’t forget these weapon has a special acog, and I saw the list of attachmens, no hand grip?????????..only bipod????…
It’s called a Susat scope mate, and it most likely won’t be in the game. Otherwise they would have shown it in the trailers. Besides, a new scope means they’d have to make it fit every other gun in the game, and I’m pretty sure they can’t be bothered to do that.
you cant have grip on a bullpup..
No, you cant put grips on bullpups like the A-91 but that coes they are small. L85 foregrips do get issued.
Oh dear… Yes you can seeing as you get a foregrip issued in the rm commandos and army..
You can, theres a rail system you can attach instead of the hand guard, i believe its made by DD’s Rail Systems in the US. The hand grips the British Forces use also have a retractable bipod in the grip..
it says single shot/3 round burst/ full auto but L85A2′s don’t do 3 round burst
So why does it have 3 switches? auto, burst and semi? have you even held an l85a2/sa80?
It doesn’t have a burst mode.
Trust me.
It has a selector lever at the back end of the rifle on the left of the receiver, R for semi and A for auto. Or R for repetition and A for auto (or America lol).
Then the safety is ahead of the trigger and you push it through the rifle to switch it on or off, like with paintball guns. I don’t know what you’re on about when you say it has 3 switches. It doesn’t.
There definitely isn’t a burst.
Plus, the photo at the top of the page is an A1, not an A2. I hope Dice sort all this crap out before they release the expansion.
Have YOU ever held an L85?
Apparently not.
There are two switches on the L85 (and the rest of the SA80 family) that control firing. One is just in front of and above the trigger, which sets the rifle between ‘Safe’ and ‘Fire’. The second is positioned at the back of the rifle, behind the mag-well, and sets the ‘Fire’ setting between ‘R’ (Repeat) and ‘A’ (Auto).
None of the SA80 family has ever been fitted with a three round-burst capable firing mechanim. Safe/Semi/Auto only.
Ive stripped down an L98A2 and there is no evidence of burst fire, you can see where the fire selector was when it was or if it ever was and L85A2 and there are only 2 settings
The L98A1 is a cadet GP rifle. Is doesn’t even have a full auto capability, and has an adapted cocking handle. The weapon is fired single shot only and unless using a BFA it is required to be re-cocked every time.
the l98a2 is semi automatic and a check is carried out each time it is cleaned to make sure it is not shooting fully automatic
Oops sorry bad memory, I check it again, only 2 switches. Dam I haven’t held it in a long time
woot woot the return of my favourtie medic/assault rifle
This gun better be portrayed properly. I’m fed up of game developers overlooking British weapons and then when they do put them in they are crap (I’m looking at you Infinity Ward). An ACOG on it I don’t mind, seen as the British Army is fazing out the SUSAT as it is terrible, but it better be able to have a foregrip.
The SUSAT Isn’t a terrible sight just because you can’t shoot with one properly doesn’t mean it’s bad
it is a terrible sight otherwise they wouldnt be replacing them
No, it’s being phased out because it’s old.
Besides most of the squaddies who now have ACOG would much rather trade it for back for their SUSAT. I’ve heard little but complaints from the regiment and army air corps on my base about ACOG sights
okay i went through the attachments and there missing two of the standard attachments for this gun the new SA80-A2 is standard attached with a fore-grip bar and a flash suppressor and that’s just standard attachment you cant even unlock them??? :/
yeah i know what you mean in the trailer it didn’t appear to have the new rail set they’ve given it,
http://images.wikia.com/guns/images/f/fd/L85a2_ris_acog.jpg
I think that’s the new carbine version, like the L22 with a few differences like an extended barrel.
Nope, that’s a new rail they’re issuing for the L85. Goes with the foregrip and LLM they’re giving out now.
L85/SA80s don’t come with SUSAT or Foregrip as standard, they are added as a part of a field/operational requirement package for personnel deploying to theater, all other rifles just have standard green muzzle cover and majority still have iron sights.
The L22 would be good for the engineer class, seen as it’s what the M4 is to the M16.
I hope they have it in the game and at least make it good i mean treyarch, infinity award all make them crap come on bf designers make the SA80 how it sould be high powered and good at range with acog as the best attactment for this weapon.
infinity ward have the A1 LSW (its the cocking handle)
Lets hope its the upgraded H&C version as that is a great AR. Plus the SUSAT is a attachment so is the FOREGRIP along with a 40m GRENADE LAUNCHER they do not come as standard. During training you first fire this weapon using the ironsights. It also does NOT do 3 round bursts. The new version is a much underrated weapon.
Ok ex British Armed Forces here to clear things up alittle
No 3 round burst on the rifle
No standerd attachments just iron sights
SUSAT Sight is in the process of being phased out but is still in use alongside the Acog scope
Foregrip is an optional attachment only compatable with the new grip
Green muzzle cover is still in use alongside the new one old green muzzle cover is being phased out
The L85A2 does not jam due to dust or water and can be used in the harshest enviroments this was the main reason to HK upgrading the L85A1 to the L85A2 the A2 has all of the A1s advantages and none of it’s weaknesses
The A2 is heavy at the back end due to all mechanical parts being towards the rear of the gun this not only makes it one of the worlds most accurate rifles but it also reduces recoil considerably the weapon itself is highly accurate even in full auto (which is rarely used due to ammunition wastage it is used as a Semi Automatic rifle 95% of the time)
I wouldnt want to go into a combat situation with any weapons other then
L85A2, M4A1, MP5, HK M416
These are the top modernised weapons in use today all sporting low recoil high accuracy
And if anyone tells you any different then they don’t know weapons they only know what games and movies tell them and let’s face it how often do you see people reload in most movies
I’d take the MK17 over any AR in service. USAF EOD and I’ve used it in all types of environments. Jams LITERALLY once in every 7500 rounds. And when it does, it’s a simple 5 sec fix. Hard hitting 7.62×51 round and very controllable even in full auto. Which, like you mentioned, is rarely used due to the waste in ammo. I’m tired of it being called a “carbine”. Special Combat Assault Rifle…not carbine. I’m VERY exited to see the SA80 series of weapons introduced into BF. make no mistake bullpup style weapons are the future of firearms. Small, compact, accurate, and easy to handle. Not to mention they are just sexy. Can’t say I’ve field stripped let alone seen a bullpup rifle but Im sure I would love them. Only speculation I can throw out is complication in cleaning and barrel changes (and other nesessary actions) and perhaps a bit more awkward loading. But as I’ve said I’ve never even seen one in person so I could be totally wrong.
3 Round Burst?
Since when?
L85s have always been Safe/Semi/Auto.
Standard issue L85A2s have nothing on them, until the soldier gets to theatre. When they’re out in theatre they have the new rail system, ACOG (or Elcan Specter) and vertical foregrip issued to them.
Ideally the unlocks for this should include:
Grip (changes the standard handguard to the railed version)
ACOG (BF3 is set in 2014, so the SUSAT will be gone by then)
M320 (re-skinned as the L123A2 UGL)
M145 (preferably re-skinned as the Elcan Specter OS)
Flash-Hider
Tactical Light and Laser (rolled in to one as the LLM)
Everything else is pretty much unnecessary. Suppressors are never issued, neither are red dots, and Russian optics would never be used either. You might be able to justify using a holo-sight as they have been used as sights for the UGL before.
At least from some of the trailers so far the gun looks pretty much correct, shame about the 3 Round Burst, but then they did exactly the same to the M416…
Guys, the sa80 won’t have a susat, well, because there bad. In real life, if our troops in afghan get the chance they put acogs on. Go google images and you will see sa80s in afghan with acogs. Also, haven’t you seen? In the ps3 (maybe xbox and pc aswell) my soldier you can view all BTK guns, and the sa80 looks sexy.
since when can you not have a grim on a bullput rifle mine has 1 and a bipod tuked away in the grip
ment grip lol
Anyone know how to unlock this weapon quickly??
what assault lvl do you have to be to unlock it
It is unlocked through an assignment. You need to unlock the famas first then you need 100 assault rifle kills, 20 underslung grenade launcher kills and 5 x squad team death match wins. The gun is sexy as fuck, low recoil, not much rpm and not the maximum damage but reload is quick.
The SUSAT is going from the Infantry. Infantry will get the ACOG (even though it’s crap, same magnification as the susat and it isn’t squady proof!) 1st and then the SUSAT’s will be passed on to the other trades i.e RAMC, RLC Royal Signals etc.
ya’ll can say an L85 will outshoot and M16 or an M4 anyday. but the dude behind the weapon is the one taking the shot… and you can’t outshoot the United States Marine Corps!! Ooh-Rah!!
Uhm… I sort of believe they can… USMC formed in WWII. Most of our shooters that handle Sniper rifles or Designated marksman Rifles could easily out shoot a USMC Sniper…
However as we’re on about an Assault rifle here. I’m guessing our Royal Marines or Special Air Service can.
@ michael bailey i am a royal marine sf sniper, i train the USMC and to be perfectly honest they cant shoot for s**t. i could probably out shoot a marine using his m16 w/acog with an A2 iron sight at 300 meters. jus saying. the A2 is a good weapons platform co-developed my 2 of the worlds best weapons manufacturers- heckler & kock and accuracy international (developers of the L98 (discont.), AS50 and L115A1 [my rifle]) the USMC are all bigged up on their own egos and dont realise that their british counterparts have became better than them. you can argue back about this but there are a lot of squaddies on here that will probably back me up on this one. also to anyone else L85′s are issued with grips, bipod-grips, UGL’s and a tac light laser sight combo. i can also equip a small SOF-LAM type designator on mine.
Haha! I couldn’t agree more with you mate.
So you’re saying a bunch of inbred hicks are better at shooting than some of the finest shots in the world (unless they were an army cadet in which case they will be inbred too)
The only problem I have is the SQDM challenge. I consider myself pretty good, but I always join the worst squad.
Adding a few people who play with more situational awareness than a bowl of fruit, to your friends list can help you. Also mics. And a strategy or two. For one nasty little example, pick a building, sniper up top, 3 others patrol not too far around it. Put the mighty smackdown on anyone daring to approach your little castle. You’ll be surprised how many lone wolf doofuses try to rush you over and over hoping to get revenge, only to get more smacking. The kills rack up and your squad wins. At least thats how it was with my little clan versus said doofuses.
the doofuses you refer to are refered to as CoD players. you know, the ones with no tactical mindset or actual battlefield (reality not the game) experience. call of duty is far to unrealistic and the CoD players who get battlefield dont resalise that a 4 man fire team can easily hold off a 2 story building (or a warehouse in the middle east from advancing russians lol) from a platoon, sometimes even a company( ammo dependant) without any CAS or ground FSG. battlefield is the game for real soldiers, air men and navy personell ( oh and the USMC). who want a break from the war!
As if BF3 even needed a tactical mindset. Where the hell are you people getting the idea that this game is realistic or requires 1337 skills? Don’t get me wrong, I like the game, but it’s not what most people say it is.
This gun, the HK M416, the Remington ACR and the SCAR-L are probably the only guns that I feel safe with.I’ve shot them all, but the L85A2 is my favourite, its like a laser beam.Really accurate gun.
There is another attachment that game-designers overlook, which is the bayonet. I think its a good idea; the bayonet fits over the barrel, but is offset, so that the user can still fire the weapon whilst it is attached.
Also, what noob thinks that the L85A2 has burst fire?!
Oh, I have a varied list of stuff I can say which is wrong with game designers and research;
In MW2, the L86 is rather a good weapon, but the grip is too long for a regular L86, there is no real drum mag for it (from what I can tell) and the reload action is used with the wrong hand: as with many other weapons, you keep the trigger hand on the grip.
If anyone wants to shoot me, I strongly recommend that you do.