BF3 SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
There are a number of hacking tools out there for Battlefield 3, professionally made tools that wannabe hackers have to pay for in order to use. Some even carry a “subscription” and require continuous payment. One hacker, in an effort to prove himself, used a hack to go after DICE developers in Battlefield 3, and knife and grab their dog tags. You can see the result in the video above.
Yesterday developer DICE revealed that they had banned hundreds of Battlefield 3 hackers, and we sincerely hope that the guy above was one of those banned. But the problem lies much deeper, it lies with the way Battlefield 3 is created and its anti-cheat system, PunkBuster, which doesn’t seen nearly as effective as it was in previous Battlefield titles.
There are plenty of hackers who aren’t showing off their “skills” and staying on top of the leaderboards, with hundreds of kills in a single round. The hacks can be turned on and off, meaning it’s much harder for fellow players to spot a hacker by just looking at the scoreboard. DICE cannot rely solely on players reporting each other, and by sheer chance, some great players who aren’t hacking will be reported for hacking as well.
What we need is a much better anti-cheat detection system in Battlefield 3. A “report” button in Battlelog is not enough.
Via DigitalBattle.
let the shitstorm begin!
All BF3Blog has done here is
1) Given free advertising to the maker of the hack
2) Stated the obvious about punkbuster’s ineptitude and the prevalence of hacks in this and every BF title. NO SHlT
3) Given free advertising to the maker of the hack
Way to go as usual, real brain surgeons writing for this site.
So what?
Only retards are going to buy this shit tool.
I think that most of the people who subscribe to “hack sites” are just some immature adults or some spoiled kids who use daddy’s credit card.
I mean seriously.. who would be so retarded to spent hard earned money on a video game then spend more money on cheat tools and then if they get perma banned buy the game again? Waste of money.
And to be honest every other “anti-cheating” software fails as hard as PB fails. The only real solution to keep cheaters away are carefully administrated servers and banlists like GGC-Stream which autoban players who are flagged as cheaters.
You made a false assertion:
“The only real solution to keep cheaters away are carefully administrated servers and banlists like GGC-Stream which autoban players who are flagged as cheaters.”
That is an important part of the solution, and DICE will have to give admins MUCH more before that’s possible.
But the game itself lends itself to hacking. Here are 2 very simple examples:
a) Client side hit registration
b) Full time player location broadcast
Both of these design decisions improve the player experience in the face of network latency, and reduce load on servers. But they also enable hacking.
I can live with client-side hit registration, because it’s harder to exploit and easier to detect if admins have chasecam support (which they don’t). But full time player location broadcast gives hackers too much for too little gain. The server should only send your client player location when there’s a ray trace possible between that player’s hitbox and your view point.
DICE’s mistake was not that their failure to empower admins or their hacker-friendly design decisions. Their mistake was both.
Who will buy those tools after spending money on the game? The same people who would otherwise buy shortcuts or Premium maybe?
You can ban or reset the first 1800 people on the score per minute leaderboards.
i rank 102 on the SPM leaderboard…and im legit, you’ll be banning alot of legit players doing this as well
You play on xbox your comments are invalid. Xbox doesn’t have the same hacking problems as PC so your comment is invalid.
You are redundant you are.
I’m sure there are a lot of legit PC players in the TOP 1800 thats what im trying to say
I beg to differ; while there may not be as many XBox hackers as there are PC, there is still a shitload of them on every FPS that come out. And for some reason alot of them are Canadian.
If you factor in other stats like accuracy you probably won’t get banned.
They could also do a per battle report analysis and red flag suspicious players. In other words hackers cannot go nuts in a game which will take a bit of the fun out of it – I think.
The problem with any sort of automated banning algorithm is that it will inevitably return a false positive. That’s just the reality of it. And when it does, the community will go absolutely apeshit and make DICE out to be the bad guy.
Yea, unfortunately, that is the hard truth of it. Once the false positive comes into play, a shitstorm will commence. Because there are some players that are actually legit on some stats, but a auto-banning system could come in and crap on them. It sucks, but it happens. On the other hand, having to go through every report takes time, so this hacker might/might not be gone already, and if he is, he can buy another copy (hence the donation thing that many hackers do).
Sad world we live in, where people profit and others pay for an unfair advantage. I honestly don’t see how it can be fun to use an aimbot, or anything that reveals the location of all your enemies. Sure, it could be fun at first, but I would imagine it getting boring rather quickly. Maybe it is just me, but I enjoy working for my stats.
This is almost worse than gold-buying in WoW. Specifically that game, because it’s popular and thousands of people get screwed over every day so some stupid kid can blow his mom’s paycheck for a few week’s worth of gems and enchants in a goddamn video game.
I was agreeing with your point with a serious face, but then I saw your avatar.
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Can’t stop laughing.
Gold farmers took my wow account a month after I hit 85 on my rogue.
When I tried to get my account back from blizz the hackers took my email.
Now I have to figure out how to reset my iTunes, YouTube, steam, league if legends accounts to a new email
Authenticator = win
Yeah, seriously you pay over 60$ for WoW, TBC, WotLK, and Cataclysm all together. If you have a Smartphone you can get the App for Free I think, and the Physical ones are like 5-10$? For a game which costs 60-80$ baseline, plus another 15$ monthly, that’s really not that much. They even give them away at BlizzCon. Lol.
This is true, they need to do better on detecting hackers. I play on PS3 and I receive tons of hack questions >.< I am afraid that someone might report me for hacking. lol
I’m still can not understand why people hack, and people actually pay for them now? Even subscribe to use the service?? I never understood it in my CS 1.6 days either but at least you could find them for free then…
Because their finger banging controller homo sexuals.
Hackers hack for two reasons: It’s their own form of trolling (a perfect example is the youtube video above), they do it for the thrill of having an unfair advantage, or they are seriously trying to get more points, which seems to be the most uncommon reason.
Hackers spend money on hacks simply because they don’t know how to create hacks themselves. Paid hacks are normally a lot more maintained than freeware that’s going to get detected in 2 seconds flat by PunkBuster because it’s never updated.
No matter how the hacker tries to cut it; hes being a d!ck, wasting tons of money on hacks and buying new copies of BF3 so he can play after being banned, and is ruining the very game that he claims to enjoy so much. I wonder if their is a special place in hell for people like them?
No no no. No need for a place in hell.
Comment from Youtube:
Hacker dies and stands before God.
God: “Oh you were a hacking bastard! You deserve eternal death and rebirth!!”
Hacker: “Wha-”
*comes back to life*
Angry mob: “Get him!”
Hacker: “OH SHI–”
Back in the days of BF2, a simple cluster of “friendlies” on the hackers’ team taking advantage of the revive-knife-revive-knife…ad infinitum would put those lowlifes in their proper state of anger.
Core game modes do need a selective “friendly fire” system for these bastards.
Hahahaha, they are just pissef of ppl are knifing em xD
I keep seeing the video saying “pwned” this and that…did anyone else see any pwnage? I just some some douche running around desperately trying to get knife kills and getting them in horrible fashion.
+1 for DICE/EA tags
-10,000,000 for hacking
-1,000 for music that resembles someone spanking a baby with a cat while swinging bag full of door knobs and circular saws.
I don’t think he means pwned in the sense of “I’m better than you at this game”
He probably means pwned like “hey dice your anti cheat doesn’t work and now I’m breaking your game so I can kill you try harder next time”
In the latter it’s totally justified the hacker did pwn them by successfully breaking the rules
+100000 for actually poking EA/DICE’s ass with a needle and forcing them to stand up.
HHAAHAHAHA!! F***ing lol at at your description of the music! xD
I just think the spelling illustrates the lack of intelligence this hacker has. I mean, the hacker isn’t smart enough to do well in an ordinary game… I must add that the hacker is also bankrupt in the moral department too. Certainly not atypical.
I’m no PunkBuster expert here, but from what I observed is PunkBuster and hackers play a game of cat and mouse. PunkBuster updates, hackers update their hacks to make them undetected. The cycle has been continuing since anti-cheat software and hacks have been made.
My point is, all they seem to be doing is finding a known hack, figuring out how it works, and updating PunkBuster to detect the hack. Hackers are just going to update their own hack and make it undetectable again and again. The only way this is going to stop is if they;
A. Make the consequences for hacking MUCH more severe
and/or
B. Find a way to end the cat and mouse game once and for all
I understand that it’s easier said than done, but the scourge of hackers will continue to run rampant in muliplayer video games until they can find a way past this game of cat and mouse.
—–Somewhat off point info—-
The only method I know of that and heard of to keep hackers at bay is hard coded data. For example, BF2 had some hackers with a unlimited commander asset hack. They would literally rain down UAV’s, supply crates, and unlimited artillery onto people. This continued until DICE hard coded the commander data. The same thing with hackers being able to force kick squad leaders; hackers were able to force kick squad leaders and join full squads until DICE hard coded the data.
Unfortunately, hard coding data isn’t done with all data. If I understand correctly, only some data is hard coded because hard coded data isn’t nearly as easy to change compared to non-hard coded data.
tl;dr something about hard-coded this that, this that. potato.
Someone call a paramedic I think this person is about to have a stroke!
Looking back I did talk a lot, and I apologize for that.
Here’s the TL;DR version:
“Hard coding” is practically illegal to hack. They don’t hard code everything because of the sake of time and convenience. Maybe make a new form of ‘hard coding’?
Caught hackers need to be punished more severely.
Find a way to end the game of ‘cat and mouse’ when it comes to anti cheating software and hackers.
What would hit hackers a little harder, is if DICE banned not just the Origin account, but the credit card used for the purchase.
Now, to be a hacker, you not only need to buy hacks, but you need to steal credit cards. That ups the stakes significantly, and I’m guessing it would weed out a lot of the hackers.
God that “music”(?) was terrible!
I don’t know what was more disgusting. The hacking or that dubstep shit.
Now I know why Engineer is fucking overpowered compared to the other classes. Because Engineer is the only class DICE plays as…….. I cannot find a single video game company who does not make something overpowered or unbalanced in their games NOT ON PURPOSE. Same thing for Soldiers in Team Fortress 2. Valve to Soldier is DICE to Engineer.
Notice his rank at 3:10 in the video. That’s a big indication that he was either banned or is too much of a coward to use his real account while playing with the devs.
f*** the guy who made this vid, I HATE HACKERS AND CHEATERS!!!
kill them*
*armstrong and miller show reference for all you non bbc viewers
People obviously have no life if their BUYING hacks; why would you waste money like that?!
So where exactly do I get this hack? I have a lot of stabbing to do.
“Woooot”
“ZOMFGWTF”
“Punk Buster doesen’t work and is utter carbage?”
NOT BIG SURPRISE, it never worked, and has always been, in pretty words, “broken”.
DICE! Y U HAVE NO PRIVATE SERVER?!
I own dice team without some stupid paid hack shit
dev team member pirelli is own of those which you can pown easily! check him out on battlelog
I’m glad they did this to DICE and released the video. They may be bragging but this will obviously piss off DICE and now they’re going to be motivated to do better to eliminate cheaters.
That’s very true. Dice really did get pwned hard with their anti-hack system proving useless right in front of them.
Now they better get to work or get humiliated some more.
Good point!
the only safe and 100% way for me to see a cheater is:
if he has a big score ingame 34-1 i go to his battle page and if the stats are
level COLONEL 16, 5 hours of playing and score/minute is 20000000000 THAT IS A CHEATER…..so if he has low hours of playing but score is high that is a -5 IQ CHILD
u have to pay for the game (BF3) and u have to pay for cheats INTERESTING BRAIN ACTIVITY cheaters have
)))))))))))))))))
34-1 is a big score, but can easily be achieved by good players and defibrillators.
Props to you for checking the stats before reporting.
Just imagine how serious brain damage hackers have. i mean srsly im watching the video and cant see how it is fun.. -_-
… but we have punkbuster HAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHA thats a huge laugh
punkbuster worked fine at the beginning RTCW (2001 year game) but it was a short period of time
since the PB crew decided to make money its all fucked up its business now
we will provide u antycheat (that doesnt work) + u will pay us for that = MAKIN MONEY
the funny thing to make more money we will sell source code of our antycheat to make easier private hax and quicker updates
PB is a total bullshit and words from DICE that they care about cheaters its like political speach. we will talk about it, how important it is, but we do nothing about it cuz we dont care
if they little care like some1 mension ealier ban/reset plenty of accounts from just for checking stats but it means they have to spend some money for hire the person who will do it
some1 mension about WoW its the same example, there are plenty of bots in WoW on battlegrounds that farming honor. everyone know that this is a bot, u will report it and the next day this bot will play again and the next day and the next day, they dont care aswell because there is an account and some1 is paying the monthly shit so why we will ban the person whos paying
D
the goal is to make a game and sell it, after that u can go fuck urself
if they really care about the cheaters they will release the game with spectator option, battlerecorder and shit like that instead of retarded 3rd person killcam (its not even 1st person killcam HAHAHHAHA and u cant even fuckin skip it u have to w8 like a moron and watch some face of a soldier)
main reason of the whole thing its because the retarded consoles, why retarded ?? because if some1 plays FPS game by using pad that means hes a RETARD. everyone knows that to proper play in FPS game u need key and mouse. the most sad thing that consoles are the biggest market so they dont care about little PC players and their cheaters
at the end noone should care about public cheaters. if u see the cheater and there is no admin just leave the server and switch to another one,problem solved. main problem on PC is that without spectator/battlerecorder/demo cheaters can play in cups. tournaments, etc. and thats a huge pain in the ass
Ok, I basically agree with you, but when you say “if some1 plays FPS game by using pad that means hes a RETARD” do you realize that your being seriously unfair to those with handicaps, and such, that find a controller manageable, but not a keyboard mouse combo? Not everyone is in their youth and in perfect health.
wow that hacking is just sad. i noticed the video was from pc, does this sort of thing happen on xbox or ps3?
I don’t think so… at least I’ve never heard of hacking on a console!
besides if it would be possible, I don’t think it would be very easy… you would probably need to run some kind of code from a flash drive (usb) and to be able to run that code you need to have root (admin) access which is impossible unless you have hacked you’r own Xbox360, or PS3. Which in that case I don’t think you would be able to play online at all…
I have heard of hackers on consoles, but they are extremely rare.
Hacking on PC is much more common because it’s MUCH easier to work with, easy to maintain, and extremely easy to distribute and manage hacks.
ahhh ok, thank goodness. Sorry about the hackers my pc comrades. Report that stuff, give em hell!
The real problem is that as someone pointed out, it’s a major cat & mouse game that will go on until someone does something drastic.
I’m not a fan of using a Warden style anti-cheat system, but I think it’s the only way to really crash these cheaters.