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On October 12th, 2011 in News

Brace yourselves, Battlefield fans, because you might be a bit disappointed after reading this. A lot of the requested features for Battlefield 3, features like in-game VOIP, Commo Rose command system, and advanced jet option, are uncertain at launch, according to DICE’s Lars Gustavsson, who recently spoke to GameSpy.

Regarding Voice Over IP communication, DICE says that it won’t be in-game at launch and that players will have to use Battlelog to set up a chat group. Gustavsson did say that they’ll see how things go “down the road” and take it from there.

PC players who wish to have joystick or gamepad controls get a few more encouraging words from Gustavsson, as he said DICE is targeting to include it at launch, but “if it doesn’t turn up at launch, it will definitely be a high priority as soon as possible after shipping”. What’s not encouraging, however, is that there won’t be an “advanced flight model” for PC players — e.g. where you can adjust mouse sensitivity for each vehicle. This was present in all other PC Battlefield games, and it’s surprising, if not disappointing, that we won’t see this simple feature return in Battlefield 3.

Commo Rose isn’t certain for launch either, as Gusvasson put it, “It is on our list for trying to get in there at launch”. Commo Rose has been one of the most requested features from the PC community, and if we know DICE correctly, we most likely won’t see it at launch.

On a good note, Gustavsson said that a lot of things from the beta have been fixed, things like hit detection and that flashlights have been toned down as well.

You can read the full interview here. Thanks to GameSpy for actually asking DICE some real questions instead of pounding the same themes over and over again. For once, the community actually gets some real questions answered.


  1. Juhh
    October 12th, 2011 at 6:51 pm

    I can’t get the fuss about the Comma Rose.
    Yes I am a console player now, but I had a few hours with BF2 (which was fun) and I still don’t consider it a great tool.

    What’s wrong with the “look at something to spot it” or “look at someone if you need anything from them” (Ammo, pickup) – mechanic?

    I think that the new spotting is superior but you’ll still don’t wanna use it because it came from the consoles…
    If you just simply used to that, I can understand but still…
    Let them work on all the REAL ISSUES.

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    • Shturmovik
      October 12th, 2011 at 10:54 pm

      Because I would like to be precise in my intentions. If I’m in a tank and there’s no engineer around me, how am I supposed to ask for repairs? (I will be playing with vehicle regen off)

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      • Binksss
        October 13th, 2011 at 7:17 pm

        Worste; you want to call for support but you aim at a vehicle and you order a ride….. Plus, in BF2, you get a line on the mini map directed at the target so if we spot a tank, all squad will see wich directions is the target. You need back up but when you aim at a assault, you ask for ammo so the guys come like it was a walk in the park and get both of you shot, etc, etc….

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  2. Pierogi210
    October 12th, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    This is what happens when the dumbest EA execs come together and breath down DICE’s necks to get a game out no matter what. This game is only rushed because EA wants to get the game out before MW3. I wish DICE can actually say something to EA to stay the hell out of their way and that the game will come out when its ready not when some EA douche wants it to come out for no reason. I personally have high hopes for BF3 however, i have doubts that this will be a true sequel to BF2 on launch. Yeah maybe 6 months after the release, it will be fully patched and have all the cool features from BF2. But as of right now, doesn’t seem like everything will be just right upon release.

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    • Marek
      October 12th, 2011 at 11:15 pm

      I will say game will be fully patched after one year or more , look at BFBC2 still not done as we like to see. Sow same will happen to BF3 , maybe after year we will get to proper BETA stage then we can start think about final game patch.

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  3. junkyard
    October 12th, 2011 at 7:09 pm

    because all those reward this year they being sick and fucked up the game, dissapointed

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  4. Sym
    October 12th, 2011 at 7:09 pm

    So how many other PC related options and PC related requests aren’t going to make it into your PC focused game?!?

    The marketing lies are getting ridiculous.

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  5. Eterray
    October 12th, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    In your opinion, the control of aircraft / helicopter will be the best on a pad ?? (like xbox360) or a joystick (like the attack 3 of logitech) or the simple keyboard / mouse?

    And who has try the pad / joystick in caspian with jets / helis here ???


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    • Alirocks1
      October 12th, 2011 at 8:48 pm

      Beta+Joypad+Caspian border=RageQuit

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  6. foodle
    October 12th, 2011 at 7:27 pm

    if you have diarrhea, should you still go through with your first date, just asking.

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  7. scutkine
    October 12th, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    in fact, at the bf3 release we’ll just have the half of functionality, and we’ll have to pay via a DLc to get commo rose, VOIP, etc.

    Bf3 players, think you’re just milch cow :p

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  8. AutonomousRedux
    October 12th, 2011 at 7:32 pm

    Seriously, how hard is it to get rid of stabilization on choppers and to add a bloody sensitivity menu for the vehicle types?

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  9. plumokin
    October 12th, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    DAMN U EA!!!!

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  10. silverbullet
    October 12th, 2011 at 7:43 pm

    maybe someone can explain to me but what is the big deal of having VoIP compared to (from what i understand) battlelog’s method which seems like the console, were you and your friend/s can chat through tht whilst on a game

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  11. winssenNL
    October 12th, 2011 at 8:06 pm


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  12. Shazbot
    October 12th, 2011 at 8:25 pm

    The console version really needs a commo rose. I’m sick of people on my team who think they’re playing CoD. They never drop ammo or medkits when needed.

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  13. System
    October 12th, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    I’m considering buying a gaming pc to play BF3, but theres alot of bad decisions been made regarding the PC version – are those decisions by DICE or EA, I don’t know but even as a primarily console player (I play BF2 very often) I can see how PC gamers are feeling. I mean, its one thing after another, and its been going on for months. DICE or EA, whoevers calling the shots needs to sort themselves out and fix what is stopping quite possibly the greatest shooter of all time from achieving its full potential on its lead platform.

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  14. Alirocks1
    October 12th, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    I found it a lil shitty they had to put the Ammo bag with the support class instead of giving the assault class the AMMO BAG CUZ THEY NEED IT!

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  15. shadow|nz
    October 12th, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    oh well wait for the patch i guess

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  16. Oh- Excuse me?! EXCUSE ME?!
    October 12th, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    Seems like I’ll be getting MW3 after all. Why buy a game whose developers are obviously breaking a successful formula, taking away essential features from the PC version – their lead platform, or so they say – when I can buy a game which had a few features added to it since the last?

    EA/DICE are truly digging their own graves with this. Oh, and it’s all because of consoles. Consoles should burn in a fire.

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    • Billy Mays
      October 12th, 2011 at 11:20 pm

      You’re a retard fuck, DICE said that they won’t be at launch, NOT THAT THEY REMOVED THEM. Learn2read damnit.

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      • Binksss
        October 13th, 2011 at 8:35 am

        Shut the fuck up, bitching troll.

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      • Oh- Excuse me?! EXCUSE ME?!
        October 13th, 2011 at 10:43 am

        Some of those are features they said would make it to the retail game – as in either at launch, or in a patch -, but I am yet to hear either. Just think about the beta; it took DICE a massive uproar from the PC community (hundreds of pages of complaints) to implement in-game squad management, while consoles had it from the beginning. The only reason they put it back into the game – something we should have taken for granted, since the PC is, after all, their ‘lead platform’ – was because we complained HARD.

        If we’ll have to complain for EVERY single feature which made BF what it is to be put back in…I’m not sure I want to bother.

        So STFU.

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  17. Marek
    October 12th, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    Hi all , ok guys wtf? BF3 day after day getting more bad !!! soon we find out it wont be guns in game or even more fun no ammo for guns.What,s going on ? well ill keep my pre-order anyways but come on did DICE lie to us from day one ?

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  18. Sullivan
    October 12th, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    RIP Commo Rose. It will be missed

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  19. dj
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    your all finally starting to see how big coporations work. .. use BAIT to attract interests ( Show off what potential full product could be)… once the fish bites bait ($ handed over)… reel that sucker in (give a product that is no where near what we first expected or 1st told was to be) toss back fish, repeat……

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  20. newkz
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    Dang. Sucks if we can’t get the commo rose. As long as VOIP is added in soon Im ok. Commo Rose reminds me of bf2 and thats why I want it. The more they try to make it like bf2 the better. Why aren’t there any humvees in the game? only 3 seater buggies is all i see.

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  21. saiga12spammer
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    I think commo rose on consoles would be kind of awkward, I think it would slow the pace of the game if you have to stop to say simple commands. they should refine the select/back button function on consoles to replace a commo rose. for instance, if you need health you look at an assault and press select or back button. The assault would see a big Icon over your head saying that you need health. Also, the assault could see your position on the mini-map. (long stort short, commands should act like 3d spotting like in bc2).

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    • Binksss
      October 13th, 2011 at 8:37 am

      Simplify system for simplify mind.

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  22. Shturmovik
    October 12th, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    No sensitivity settings for each vehicles?
    No mod tools, not even a map editor? (I mean people still need to BUY the game in order to play the mods, so what’s the problem with EA? People will still buy developer made map-packs and expansions).

    No in-game VOIP, yet consoles already have voice channels?
    Can’t even disable map limitations according to Kertz…

    What were they saying again about PC being LEAD PLATFORM?

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    • Marek
      October 12th, 2011 at 11:05 pm

      “PC being LEAD PLATFORM” well as Dj say,d pc player,s was used as BITE for this game and to make all “NICE” hype about !!!. now they “DICE” don’t need us “pc players” sow we got what all of us can see.

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  23. mario89bros
    October 13th, 2011 at 2:46 am

    can someboby explain to me what commo rose is? im new to the battlefield series i only started playing bf bc2 a few months ago

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    • Ron Johnson
      October 13th, 2011 at 3:26 am

      It was a feature in BF2 where you held down Q when looking at something such as an enemy vehicle or multiple infantry units and could either click in the middle, where it named what was in front of you for the team, or you could choose options such as “enemy vehicle” and your guy would announce that over the comms… The commo rose included other things like “request backup” or “request ammo” for others to see you need ammo or a medic.

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    • Mr.:.Action
      October 13th, 2011 at 3:29 am

      its not in bc2 so you wouldn’t have seen it.

      its a menu that appears when you held down “q” in bf2, instead of having to point to a medic and hitting Q for a medpack, you could shout “i need a medpack!!!” and you would be a blip on evry medics radar, which makes more sense that q in bf bc2 since you dont have to actually see a medic and anyone close enough can try to get to ya

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  24. Ron Johnson
    October 13th, 2011 at 3:22 am

    Oh please put the commo rose back in! That was one of the best features in BF2 and we need stuff like that to promote further teamwork.

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  25. Mr.:.Action
    October 13th, 2011 at 3:25 am

    it seems like they’re just trying to get the game out before modern warfare 3….

    it isnt a problem if its small things missing like maybe a character appearance option missing, but when its gameplay related things like voip and the commo rose now i got a problem, i thought dice said they werent in a race with infinity ward and just making THEIR game on THEIR side? that the war was between ea and activision?…

    so now we get an imcomplete game just because you wanna say “FIRST” just like many people in this website!!!

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