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On October 14th, 2011 in News

BF3 soldiers
Over the past few months, DICE has expertly dodged questions whether PC gamers will be able to create several soldiers per Origin account in Battlefield 3. During the beta, we saw there was “room” for multiple solders on Battlelog, and we’ve heard conflicting news whether we’ll be able to create multiple soldiers. However, according to DICE, those “slots” are for console accounts, meaning that you cannot create a new solder on PC, but if you play Battlefield 3 on a console, you can add your console soldier (e.g. via Xbox Live Gamertag), and track the stats in Battlelog. This is according to DICE’s Daniel Matros, who tweeted the news.

Not only that, it’s been confirmed (again, via Matro’s Twitter) that your name in Battlelog is your Origin username, which will also be the name of your soldier, presumably. What makes this situation worse, is that players cannot change their Origin account name via the settings, instead, they have to contact EA tech support and request a name change. Which sometimes works, sometimes doesn’t.

We dunno what else to say other than we’re disappointed over this, especially if all of Mr. Matros’ Tweets turn out to be true. The integration between Origin, Battlelog and Battlefield 3 has taken a step too far, slashing away features that PC gamers have enjoyed for years. Simple features like creating different soldiers and choosing your in-game name.

Not to mention that since your Origin username is publicly displayed, it’s a potential security risk as would-be hackers now only have to guess the password. Other services, like Steam, don’t publicly display the username/login name of the account.



205 COMMENTS & TRACKBACKS

  1. ϞKRI||ƩX
    October 14th, 2011 at 1:36 am

    Disappointing news for PC players.

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    • xCryonic
      October 14th, 2011 at 4:09 am

      Yeah, but I still wonder how it is for PS3 players.

      *1 game for each PSN-ID even on same console
      (PSN-ID = Soldier #1, If you want to create a new soldier. buy another BF3)?

      OR is it…

      *Multiple accounts can play BF3 on same PS3
      (New PSN-ID = New Soldier)?

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      • henry
        October 14th, 2011 at 6:50 am

        i think itll be you get 1 soldier for 1 account for free then after that you will problably need to purchase the EA online pass for each account

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        • Azrael
          October 14th, 2011 at 10:57 am

          The online pass actually downloads to your console and unlocks all the accounts on the console. In other words, no, you won’t need to purchase an online pass for other accounts. Now, let’s say for example one of those accounts belongs to your brother, and he eventually gets his own PS3, he’ll need to either buy a new copy of BF3, or a used copy and get the Online Pass since the pass is associated with whatever account was used to purchase it (if you’re smart, you activated the pass on your account instead of letting another user do it on theirs). Granted, you could log into your account on your brother’s new PS3 and install the online pass through your account, but I think that will deactivate your PS3.

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        • henry
          October 14th, 2011 at 3:33 pm

          nice to know i cant state some facts without getting some dislikes

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      • xCryonic
        October 14th, 2011 at 12:28 pm

        WTF?

        Why did I get thumbs down? some ppl butthurt because of consoles delayed BETA ?

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        • Gundam288
          October 14th, 2011 at 10:07 pm

          I have a feeling you got voted down because people are NOT looking for questions…

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    • Biggs
      October 14th, 2011 at 4:58 am

      I was reading on the EA UK Battlefield 3 forums and someone posted about changing your Origin ID, and to my surprise it actually worked. Here’s how to do it, requires that you have an iPhone or Android phone.

      You have to install EA’s “Scrabble Free” app from the market. Once installed you can go to Options (The cog looking icon at the bottom), Click Log in to the right (use Origin email and password), then you can go back to the Options screen and clcik “Edit Account” and enter your new ID to get the Save button to work I had to enter my password for the New password fields, idk why.

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      • .
        October 14th, 2011 at 8:50 am

        NOO, don’t own Iphone or Android…………………………………..

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        • revrak
          October 14th, 2011 at 5:54 pm

          use an emulator

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        • HDresden
          October 20th, 2011 at 2:09 pm

          Do what I did, get a friend you trust that has an iPhone or an android phone and have them do it for you. worked like a charm :)

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      • Gridiot
        October 14th, 2011 at 9:07 am

        Hey, it does work!! Thanks

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      • Implied
        October 14th, 2011 at 9:29 am

        Unfortunately it seems Scrabble Free isn’t available World-Wide, as I just found out, since all I got for Search Results was “Scrabble Tile Rack” (This is just some sort of iPad Connect and Play thing) and Scrabble 1,59 Euro (which is the Pay version).

        1,59 not being much, still kinda sucks. Ah well, just pointing that out to anyone else who can’t find “Scrabble Free” on iOS.

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      • popcorn
        October 14th, 2011 at 1:59 pm

        You don’t need an iphone or droid either..

        You can do this online.. someone in my clan did it, but it wouldn’t change for the beta.. I know it is possible on the PC via one of EA’s login sites, but can’t remember how.. Reason he was trying so we could add our clan tag etc.. pretty sure you can do that via battlelog as well

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      • DaTooth
        October 14th, 2011 at 7:10 pm

        Thank you soooooooo much, my fathers orgin account decided to use my soldiers name, before i built my computer, and in the BF3 beta he was using my name, not only would this have prevented me from using mine, but also him his. now i wont have to deal with shitty EA customer service!

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    • VineFynn
      October 14th, 2011 at 6:36 am

      Bah, what does EA care for player security? All they care about is how much fucking cash they can drag out of BF3.

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    • The MAN!!
      October 14th, 2011 at 10:55 am

      Pc players seem to always forget that the difference between DICE and EA’s actions, EA makes all the decisions and wants you to pay more and make using Origin mandatory since BF3 is one of the few EA titles we want. However they’ll still getting 64 players and 1080p graphics which were dice’s decision, I’m pretty sure if Dice leaves EA and goes back to being independent than we’ll have much greater titles and even more features for each individual platform.

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      • Implied
        October 14th, 2011 at 11:14 am

        EA would never let DICE go, they make too much money off them. Plus, the buyout price would be huge in the first place.

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        • True that...
          October 14th, 2011 at 6:10 pm

          …EA would never let go of DICE, especially since the bond is rather strong. You see, BF1942 is still the best BF game cause by that time, EA simply just did the publishing, without too much twinkering DICE’s actions.

          However, the “Lets fuck off”-scenario would be much similiar to any other scenario in, lets say industrial field. All the workforce needs to do, is simplu refuse working and walk out of the factory. So they get fired and the employer gets replacements. The difference in here is, that DICE is one of the few workforces that knows, how larger scale infantry+vehicles combat is *properly done* to satisfy a large pool of users simultaneously. If DICE ever decides to walk out, EA would indeed truly, really be fucked, because it’s difficult, if not impossible to find a replacing workforce.

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        • Implied
          October 14th, 2011 at 9:46 pm

          I’m getting a Deja Vu vibe from this, we discussed this before? :O (No, seriously…)

          DICE currently employees 280+ people, possibly 300 by the end of the year. Getting all of them to walk out would be rather hard. Its been done before, sure. Take Infinity Ward for example. One of the Heads had some sort of argument with Activision or something, then quit. Most of the Staff followed him. They formed a new Studio, their first Project already in development (IIRC this happened quite a while ago).

          They detailed how starting over was hard. They basically had nothing. No fancy hardware, they didn’t even have an office, was just chairs in a circle in the beginning. Unless Carl Magnus or Bach quit, I doubt the Staff would follow. And even then, I’d say only the long-term loyal ones would. Stockholm is an expensive City to live in. Throwing your savings into a new Studio’s Project, a Studio which would probably want to design its own In-House Engine expanding Development time to around 5 years, is a ridiculously big risk.

          Then there’s the fact that their Stockholm Studio was built 2-3 years ago, its basically brand new. They’ve got a load of hardware there, loads of expensive tech required for tech. development etc. Sure, this might not be a major factor. Who knows.

          Also, even if they all did decide to quit and make a new Studio, there’s the fact that doing that means they’d probably also forfeit all rights to ever make another Battlefield title again. EA owns DICE, meaning EA owns the Battlefield franchise. They’d have to start over, new series. Totally different everything so they can’t be sued for copying/stealing code or whatever. No more Frostbite Engine, completely different Gameplay, bla bla bla. EA would probably sue just out of spite. American Corps are Sue-Happy these days.

          Then, there’s also the problem that EA might even refuse to publish their Games, other biggest option left on the table is Activision, which out of the two, is worse (for now anyway). Unlikely of course, since they’d lose out on cash, but who knows. They are rather childish at times after all.

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        • That's also true...
          October 15th, 2011 at 6:41 pm

          …But please note I never argued against your point. But when looking at times like these where EA has managed to make nothing but bad decisions, it wouldn’t be surprise IF DICE ever says “OK, that’s it! I had enough.”

          P.S. I remember time when EA didn’t make THAT bad choices and simply did the marketing and publishing.

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        • Implied
          October 16th, 2011 at 4:57 pm

          My Post intended more to line up what would happen if DICE upped and quit than anything, ended up being a super-long read however >.<

          Yeah, Publishers used to just Publish Games. Then they figured out they could make more Profit by buying out the Studios and controlling the Development for themselves, along with securing that any future Games Developed would automatically be published by them. DLCs didn't exactly help matters either.

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    • L3g3NdZ
      October 14th, 2011 at 9:35 pm

      well if i can’t play as all classes please let us be able to customize our on
      character like battlefield play 4 free

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    • Drumder
      December 4th, 2011 at 7:29 pm

      For sure You can have more players because of Your info is written like this : “Soldiers” not “Soldier”. I just wonder when this option will be available.

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  2. DOOMZDAYZ
    October 14th, 2011 at 1:36 am

    The way EA and DICE has treated PC is disgraceful. Granted DICE has to do what EA orders, but their ‘main’ platform has recieved the worst functionality.

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    • David
      October 14th, 2011 at 1:53 am

      no it really hasnt, pc players just whine about fucking everything to point where they seem like the most miserable assholes on earth

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      • Eddie
        October 14th, 2011 at 3:00 am

        For real man, like DICE said before, “shut up and play the game”, make your own games if you don’t like the way battlefield 3 is coming out.
        ╭∩╮(︶︿︶)╭∩╮

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        • ϞKRI||ƩX
          October 14th, 2011 at 3:15 am

          Couldn’t have said it better.

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        • Citizen-C
          October 14th, 2011 at 3:36 am

          Real men? Ptsch real men dont put up with shitty treatment and flawed security. Real men do something about it even if the only thing they can do is argue why they are upset with it.

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        • Implied
          October 14th, 2011 at 10:45 am

          Easy to say, not so easy to do. Triple-A Game Budget in today’s Market runs into 10 Million + Dollars. For Indies, that’s 2 years of minimum wage since all their savings get dumped into the project. That’s 2 years assuming you’re using a Licensed Engine. Average of 5 if you’re making your own, and if you’re not using a Major Publisher, good luck. That’s all assuming the project doesn’t crash and burn mid-way through Development. Then, you’ve wasted most/all of your money on a failed Project.

          Seems to me your “make your own games” comment is thrown out from pure ignorance.

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      • TBLK
        October 14th, 2011 at 4:01 am

        This coming out of one of the most fanboyish commenters on the site.

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      • Ukky Fuggums
        October 14th, 2011 at 4:13 am

        Wow either you’re a fail of a troll or you are just full retard, I am guessing both. j00 mahd brho?

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      • -=BwK=-
        October 14th, 2011 at 4:27 am

        Actually it has. They have dumbed down the game in many areas so that console players can pick it up and play like they can with call of duty

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        • SuperSanity
          October 14th, 2011 at 4:32 am

          Wrong. This is EA underestimating console gamers. Stop blaming the poor decisions these companies make on console players.

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        • BongMan
          October 14th, 2011 at 4:54 am

          Hey fuck you, dickhead. Just because DICE wants to include console players in their fanbase doesn’t mean you need to bitch and moan. Not all of us are COD kids. And most of you PC players are elitists anyway. You deserve to be screwed over, wanker (Doesn’t include decent PC players who aren’t arseholes). If you don’t like it, then piss off. Nothing annoys me more on here than hearing nerds like you whinge.

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        • -=BwK=-
          October 14th, 2011 at 4:55 am

          Im not blaming it on console player, i too play 360 as well as pc. im blaming EA and DICE for claiming BF3 has the best intentions for the PC first but then clearly giving them the shaft.

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        • That Guy.
          October 14th, 2011 at 7:44 am

          Hoooo Leeee shit I can’t change my soldier name? Ohmygod what am I to do?!?!
          Damn, I mean I play on every platform, grant it, this is unfortunate but get your heads out of your asses, all of you! All, you do is bitch and moan about some of the MINOR flaws that this game has, rather than being excited for the game, you all bitch and moan about everything when a something new is posted. Get off your high fucking horses and make a great game for us eh? PC is the lead platform but i’ll be damned if i can’t change me Soldier name. Consoles get the shit end of the stick simply because the old hardware they can’t experience true battlefield, and here you are complaining about not being able to change your name. I think you should put some time into something you would actually enjoy instead of realizing 2 weeks later that “Smd_For_Candy” was a stupid name. I mean come on the game comes out in 11 days and you all bitch and complain, i guarantee you that when you are at home playing a little after midnight you won’t be thinking about “OhMy I won’t be able to change my soldier name :’( EFF YOU EA/DICE” You may be saying “EA’S SERVERS SUCK” but that’s natural. Anways, all fanboy bullshit aside stop fucking complaining. And the people who read this block me if you want.. i just want people to read this.. the complaining is ridiculous as well as my grammar, but all i want is this game so i can play my heart out

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        • Hired_Mark
          October 14th, 2011 at 4:03 pm

          I prefer a mediocre game with lots of good little touches, than a good game with lots of bad touches, simple because in a gamer’s “taste” it leaves a positive aftertaste.

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    • Implied
      October 14th, 2011 at 7:45 am

      BongMan, been smoking too many Bongs?

      Most of the Flame Wars on here that I see are started by Console Players. Granted, PC “Elitists” have started some, but its usually some paranoid teenager mis-understanding a comment and starting an Epeen War.

      PC Players complain because we’re not even getting something as simple as a Game Menu, its been completely replaced by Battlelog. We complain because we have a fucking DRM called Origin + Battlelog. Did you know we can’t even play the Campaign without logging into Battlelog first? No? Hm. And yet, you Console Fanboys bitch about us complaining too much.

      How would you all feel if you had to open your Sony/Microsoft Console Browser, log into Battlelog, and then launch Battlefield 3 from there, all on your PS3s or Xbox 360s?

      You’re getting everything we want:
      - Game Menu
      - In-Game Server Listing
      - (Most likely) In-Game VOIP (Yeah, we need to use Battlelog for this too)

      So yeah, we complain. Because EA/DICE or whoever decides this shit is hammering Failbook for Battlefield up our asses with a sledgehammer, possibly simply because of Call of Duty Elite. I don’t like Failbook, I hate it, so why the fuck would I ever want to even TOUCH Battlelog? I wouldn’t, and yet, I don’t have a choice if I want to play Battlefield 3.

      And now they found another Milking Method. 1 Character Per-Account. That means you shell out 60$ to play everything on a single Character. I personally don’t care, not planning to do Multi-Classes, but others will. And I do care when my Account Name will be displayed as my Character Name with no Options to change that.

      In Conclusion: Console Fanboys: Stfu. You have it easy.

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      • Implied
        October 14th, 2011 at 7:55 am

        Oh yeah, and P.S. Since I forgot this earlier: PS3 Getting DLCs one week ahead of everyone else, so like I said, Console Fanboys, you have no room to complain about PC Users. You’re getting the long end of the stick. The VERY long end.

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        • inSANITY
          October 14th, 2011 at 11:51 am

          I think the console and players are both getting the same side of the stick, whether it be the short side or the long side…
          PC:
          Drm (Origin)
          One Soldier
          Voip through battlelog
          No joysticks
          No command rose

          Console:
          Smaller maps
          Lower quality textures
          One soldier
          No joysticks
          No command rose
          No text chat
          More CoD switchovers that complain about pretty much EVERYTHING!

          If anything we should quit arguing with eachother and try to persuade DICE into fixing/Changing what they can….

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        • Implied
          October 14th, 2011 at 12:27 pm

          I’d take Joysticks and Comma Rose off the list for PC, they said there’d be a Day 1 Patch. Softpedia said BF3 went Gold a few days ago, so they have 2-3 weeks to do Comma Rose/Joysticks/Advanced Jet Options for PC and launch that with the Day 1 Patch.

          Advanced Jet Options/Joysticks can’t be that hard, Comma Rose will probably take up some time.

          Far as Consoles:
          - Smaller Maps due to a Cap of 24 Players, Console Hardware limits
          - Lower Quality Textures due to Console’s older hardware, that comes with using one these days unfortunately.
          - CoD Switchovers will either Ragequit by themselves, get banned for Whining instead of Playing, or just get used to it and shut up.

          So Consoles can’t use Joysticks after all… I always wondered :O

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        • Simplex
          October 14th, 2011 at 12:28 pm

          Consoles also get smaller maps, 24 players instead 32/64, inferior graphics and fps (720p, 30fps). So its not all roses.

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        • Implied
          October 14th, 2011 at 12:39 pm

          Ah yes, the 30 FPS 702p thing. Forgot about that. Console Hardware limitations suck >.<

          Throw in Mod Tools too. Even though we've never had those with the Frostbite Engines (yet), its sad that we might not be getting any, again. Reduces Game lifespan significantly.

          We forgetting anything else?

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        • Gundam288
          October 14th, 2011 at 9:26 pm

          well, I would say that the 24 player limit on the console isn’t because of hardware limits, it’s because of the bandwith min. I know microsoft has a so called “limit” for there servers, since I’ve seen a few things posted here and there about devs for upcoming games (at the time) say this is the reason they can not add more players.

          I have a feeling it was this more than hardware, but then again I stopped buying consoles after xbox1,ps2,gamecube because MS wanted to make me buy a new console……. and I do recall Xbox 1 having a required internet speed to even play on LIVE back in the day…

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        • Binksss
          October 15th, 2011 at 3:59 pm

          @inSANITY:

          All cons with console you talk about is due to the limitation of your “cheap pc wrapped in a box”. All cons for PC is due to the fuckin devs and publisher.
          Again, a console player try to argue and only say bullshit…

          Frakkin’ cheap-toy-pc fanboys.

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      • thebattlefield
        October 14th, 2011 at 3:41 pm

        who´s getting the massive battles ?? PC, do i complain ? NOOO

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        • Implied
          October 14th, 2011 at 9:28 pm

          Console Hardware/Software Limitations =/= EA Epeen Decisions.

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    • [AOD]BĀXŦĘR (Deathfate is retired)
      October 14th, 2011 at 4:35 pm

      Battlelog won’t suck forever. It will get constant updates and improvements. PC got the most attention by far, but they’re still working out the kinks. I love being able to go to battlelog and see who’s on and in what party and on what map without having to open anything but another tab. Sure now we can only have one character, but that character will reflect our actual skill over all games ever played, not just all the ones we took seriously. It’s a new dawn for Battlefield, and it doesn’t look half bad.

      Btw I changed my name with the scrabble trick a couple days ago, works great.

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      • Implied
        October 14th, 2011 at 9:29 pm

        Problem is, it eliminates Choice without first introducing Loss. I play as a Recon/Sniper. I always do, its what I like to do. Not because I like to Camp/Quick Scope, I just like it.

        However, I have dabbled with the other Classes in previous Games. Over time, with a maxed Character, you end up getting bored, so you want to start over, try something new.

        Now, you can’t do that. You need to lose all your Progress and start over fresh to try out a new Class. And if you don’t like it, you’re stuck without anything to fall back on. You’re back to point 0. Total re-set.

        Unless you buy insurance. A second License. Another 60$, possibly more if you get the DLCs/Expansion Packs coming up too. Then you can play around there, but there’s still the fact that it costs 60$ in the first place.

        It won’t necessarily reflect all skill though. Its not like we can’t delete it all together. Whoever cares about K/D Ratio will still start off with one, then when they’ve gotten used to it, dump it and start over again. Only difference for them is, saving their old Character isn’t optional anymore.

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  3. Q3id
    October 14th, 2011 at 1:37 am

    DICE is likely quite pissed off at EA trying to shove Origin down their throats. The game isn’t even out yet, and it’s still painfully obvious that Origin is causing problems.

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  4. bLuEpInOy
    October 14th, 2011 at 1:37 am

    great hackers know my account name and all they have to do is guess my password. Way to go DICE/EA, way to protect your customers information against hackers.

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    • ϞKRI||ƩX
      October 14th, 2011 at 1:45 am

      Dissappointing news for PC players.

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      • Ukky Fuggums
        October 14th, 2011 at 4:15 am

        Nope wait, you will play it on PS3 and oh wait… no you cant because the PSN will get hacked and go down again. Bad news for console players.. damn that just sucks..

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        • BF3FTW!
          October 14th, 2011 at 4:29 am

          Wow why are you bashing on the consoles? They never effected you in anyway.

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        • ϞKRI||ƩX
          October 14th, 2011 at 6:40 am

          I play Xbox, and… What?

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        • Da_xavier
          October 14th, 2011 at 12:12 pm

          is someone butthurt? i love it when someone’s only comeback is ooo psn got hacked. funny thing is thats all you got. do you even know why the hack happened? because soy wasny gonna take geohots bs and sued him for breaking the terms of service so anon got there lil panties in a bunch and decided sony was in the wrong. hense the hack. you wanna talk about hacking on pc? because i could sit here all day and talk about the countless amout of games that are hacked on pc and how punkbuster is a horrible protection method to stop hackers. psn was plauged with one problem were as in pc games are plauged with hackers from day one look at those hacked lobbies that support 128 players along with people having unlimited ammo and one shot kill auto aim…do you want me to go on? expect to see all that day one for pc also while i play on

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    • PaulC2K
      October 14th, 2011 at 3:58 am

      “all they have to do is guess my password”
      Really?? Its that simple, i know your username so all i have to do is guess your password! If someone random can *guess* your password, when the only thing they know about you is your Origin username (which for many, could be their BF name anyway), then clearly you need to be using a better password.
      Its a stupid system, dont get me wrong, but these over the top type statements just make you seem stupid rather than the process being stupid.

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      • Joel
        October 14th, 2011 at 5:29 am

        It’s called “brute force” hacking. It’s not really guessing, it’s more just using a computer program to test random combinations of letters and words thousands of times a minute untill they guess the password.

        However if they don’t have access to your username they first have to guess a random username (not knowing whether it’s a valid one or not) then try and guess passwords for it.

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        • Charles
          October 14th, 2011 at 7:55 am

          Thousands of password guesses a minute? Three wrong guesses and you can’t log in for a set amount of time…

          As well, emails, PSN and forum usernames, all these things are out in the open, and would in many cases be of worth once cracked, and it’s still not a simple matter of “just guess the password.”

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        • Gundam288
          October 14th, 2011 at 8:22 am

          what I’m wondering more is if Star Wars: The Old Republic’s “Custom Security Authentication Key”(it’s a keyfob like WoW’s) from the Collecters Ed. will tie to your origin account or just for that game. If it ties to your account, then it will be very unlikey that someone will be able to “hack” your account even if they knew the password as the code changes.

          if that is indeed the case then the people who pre-orded SW:ToR’s LE and “BF3″ won’t have to worry about it too much. and why would someone want to hack your account in the 1st place? Unless you pissed them off that is….

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        • Jason
          October 14th, 2011 at 3:39 pm

          There’s a spam limit on log in attempts specifically so that hackers can’t brute force their way into your account. Try posting again when you have at least some idea of what you’re talking about.

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      • TOCS
        October 14th, 2011 at 5:49 am

        That doesn’t really matter. People with the money to set up desks of PCs, will easily bruteforce accounts. This has been done countless of times.

        If they want security, they should just follow our lead. It isn’t much of a deal anyway.

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  5. InfamousRabbiTT
    October 14th, 2011 at 1:38 am

    Sad face ———–> :(

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  6. Jack of All Trades
    October 14th, 2011 at 1:39 am

    Shiiit A storm’s A’comming *sighs* WHY?! Is this EA or
    DICE?! And Why would they give the PC community such a Bitch slap
    I swear why do, these days, all cool things come with so many strings attached Maaan fuck corperations complex plans to steal my money
    aw well still getting it, fuck it…

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    • Gundam288
      October 14th, 2011 at 8:26 am

      it’s EA. DICE was bought out by EA back in 2006, since then DICE has always been EA in my book, that being said BF2142 was the last true Battlefield game made by DICE before they sold out to EA….

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  7. Vinny
    October 14th, 2011 at 1:41 am

    blame EA not DICE. EA is forcing them into using Origin because…you gotta use the damn thing for something right?

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  8. romrah
    October 14th, 2011 at 1:41 am

    I can’t believe more people are not outraged at all of this stuff. The fact the battlelog can be hacked up and your account info is out there for the world to see and taken in this day in age is just plain irresponsible on their part. This should be leading everyone to tell dice to stick it and cancel their orders until they get all of these major issues fixed. It’s sad that most people will be sheep and just accept it from the PC side.

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    • ayn
      October 14th, 2011 at 3:23 am

      Yeah, just waiting another hack like PS3 had. Stupid stuff. In a world where we should be more security concise, EA choice is to make thing easier for hackers to steal our information.

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  9. Kill Skill
    October 14th, 2011 at 1:48 am

    Xbox gamers don’t care.

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    • TehGamer
      October 14th, 2011 at 2:03 am

      KewlStoryBro.

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    • Eddie
      October 14th, 2011 at 3:01 am

      Nope, HAHA. ╭∩╮(︶︿︶)╭∩╮

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    • Hellsrage
      October 14th, 2011 at 3:06 am

      No it’s just idiot’s like you who don’t care.

      I play on Xbox and I’ve bitched/complained about the crap that’s happening to PC users. It’s fucked up this game was gonna be PC exclusive and so far it’s only been PC users who have gotten the short end of the straw.

      HIGHLY RATED Thumb up 35 Thumb down 4
      • Ukky Fuggums
        October 14th, 2011 at 4:20 am

        ^^^^^^^ Good man

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      • pc sucks
        October 14th, 2011 at 5:35 am

        PC sucks bra

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        • LoA
          October 14th, 2011 at 8:04 am

          Ignorant console kid.

          HIGHLY RATED Thumb up 26 Thumb down 2
        • v3rtz
          October 14th, 2011 at 8:49 am

          Jelly you don’t have one?

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        • pc sucks
          October 14th, 2011 at 4:51 pm

          im sorry i dont have time to spend thousands of $ on gaming. its called having a life bra

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        • Exclamation marks
          October 14th, 2011 at 6:41 pm

          Surely if you’d have life, you’d also have enough time to learn proper punctuation, yes?

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        • L3g3NdZ
          October 14th, 2011 at 9:42 pm

          lol IF i didn’t like pc which i do… i wouldn’t even bother to have it in my name you piece of shit. go back to your milk and cookies crunch crunch

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        • Master X
          October 15th, 2011 at 12:19 am

          lolololol children, children stop fighting this boy does have a point, pc players are middle aged men who live in their mother’s basement and play video games all day lolololol

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        • pc sucks
          October 15th, 2011 at 12:30 am

          hhhmmm u mad? over video games? temper? no girlfriend? just your hand? no meaning in life? worthless piece of shit? u mad?

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        • TBLK
          October 15th, 2011 at 5:40 am

          its called having a life bra

          That’s why you troll and insult people on the internet, right? Clearly it isn’t because you have self esteem issues and just want someone to acknowledge your existence for once in your pitiful life.

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        • L3g3NdZ
          October 15th, 2011 at 3:17 pm

          ok dude the fact that you bothered to put pc in your name is beyond me and if you have a life it’s probably at mconolds putting together happy meals lol now that that’s done…. time to GET BACK TO WORK ba da pa pa paaaa
          im lovin it

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        • pc sucks
          October 16th, 2011 at 3:19 am

          no its not at mcdonalds its kickin ass in the marine corp, your the one who sits on your pc all day wacking it to video games little boy ba da ba ba ba im lovin it bitch

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        • Tau999Heavy
          January 17th, 2013 at 12:55 am

          Well.. at the risk of resurrecting a dead thread.. just look at the likes and dislikes. You my friend are in a minority group… among others. Stop trolling/get a life and for Gods/Allah’s/Buda’s (i don’t really care which) sake learn to use proper language, .

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  10. Gino
    October 14th, 2011 at 1:48 am

    i didn’t read it all but from what the comments say i think in terms “were fucked” on pc…FFFUUUUUUUUUU-

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  11. P2501
    October 14th, 2011 at 1:49 am

    What is worse is it is almost IMPOSSIBLE to get EA to change your origin name. I had people following me from and old clan from server to server on PC and harassing me because all they had to do was search the known name i had for origin before I had a falling out with them and EA wouldn’t even change my origin name. So when the game releases ill get hit with the same problem because of their forcing you to use your origin name.

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  12. rscmarmer
    October 14th, 2011 at 1:50 am

    Kinda weird that they cant take 5 seconds to add a in game name or the ability to make multiple soldiers.

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  13. snuew
    October 14th, 2011 at 1:55 am

    You can actually change your Origin Master ID via EA’s Scrabble app on iOS and Android… http://battlefieldo.com/change-origin-id/ …. IT WORKED FOR ME!!!

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    • Nivex
      October 14th, 2011 at 4:45 am

      I love you.

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  14. Colt_Gun
    October 14th, 2011 at 1:56 am

    ohhhh no… *puts on flame suit*

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  15. Jonatan
    October 14th, 2011 at 1:59 am

    thats why i love Steam :)

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    • Implied
      October 14th, 2011 at 7:51 am

      Steam would make no difference in this case. Even if you buy the Game off of Steam rather than Origin, or any 3rd Party Online Store really, you’ll still need to use Origin.

      And really, people don’t realize this, but Steam acts as a DRM itself. Its not as intrusive, but it still acts as a DRM to a certain extent.

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      • Zeta-Alkalyne
        October 14th, 2011 at 2:55 pm

        Two things: 1. WHYYY do people keep saying that “if it came out for steam you’d still have to use origin”?!? That is TOTAL SPECULATION. There has NEVER been such words from Valve, EA, Dice, anyone.
        2. Everyone knows Steam is DRM. No one cares. We’re fine with DRM, it’s account info thats the subject here.

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        • Implied
          October 15th, 2011 at 4:25 am

          Because even if you buy it from a 3rd Party Store, like say, Direct2Drive, you still need an Origin Account. You still need to Download the Origin Client, it still needs to run in the background.

          Why would they make an exception of this for Steam? Other Online Stores would complain.

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  16. adspie
    October 14th, 2011 at 2:04 am

    It is too late now to cancel my pre-order, WTH happen to you DiCE/EA?? you rob and lie to us in 1st day!!

    *1 account per pc
    *Command Rose, VoIP, and Joysticks

    disappointed BIG time

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    • adspie
      October 14th, 2011 at 2:06 am

      EA you have no diffrence between ACTIVISION your the same sh!T!!

      HIGHLY RATED Thumb up 15 Thumb down 7
    • LoA
      October 14th, 2011 at 8:05 am

      Command rose is confirmed to be patched in, just coming in a little hot. :)

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    • codumus
      October 14th, 2011 at 12:47 pm

      you know its not good to base your opinions on a BETA of a game -_- and maybe if you researched a little you would of found out that command rose and VoIP are gonna be in the full game

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    • Jason
      October 14th, 2011 at 3:37 pm

      It’s not too late to cancel your preorder. Stop waving around preorder cancellation like a whiny toddler and just do it already, if you’re so butthurt about EA as a publisher.

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  17. mateus
    October 14th, 2011 at 2:11 am

    the origin is fucking with our fun!

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    • Gundam288
      October 14th, 2011 at 10:16 am

      I would say Battlelog is more of the problem than Origin. (on the PC anyway)

      Web based “main menu”? are you kidding me? o_O this better be another DICE troll….. well, BC here we come…

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  18. someblue
    October 14th, 2011 at 2:11 am

    i assume this means the only way to get multiple names is to but the game multiple times?

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    • someblue
      October 14th, 2011 at 2:58 am

      haha buy*

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  19. outraged
    October 14th, 2011 at 2:20 am

    Completely outraged at how they are Ramming us as hard as they can in the rear end.

    They have taking everything i enjoy about online play, and replacing it with CRAP which out-dates every shooter of the last decade.

    Progression my arse EA.

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  20. Xes
    October 14th, 2011 at 2:27 am

    The EA Master ID/Origin ID soldier name is kind of stupid, but if you are smart it is not that big of a deal (EA could also use an authenticator system like WoW uses).

    However, I don’t understand the outrage over one soldier per account/CD key. IMO, the only people multiple soldiers would help are stat whores and griefers.

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    • Implied
      October 14th, 2011 at 7:53 am

      Or people who want to try a new Class without losing all the Progression they made on the old one. Lot of people like to make 2nd Characters and start over with a new Class after a while. Oh wait, this Game isn’t supposed to live as long as BF2, right…. Oops. Forgot.

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      • Zeta-Alkalyne
        October 14th, 2011 at 2:58 pm

        New class? Lose progression? Are you sure you’re not playing an MMORPG? This is f*cking Battlefield, last I checked, you can switch classes every time you fricken spawn. And you dont lose sh!t.

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    • SierraAZ
      October 14th, 2011 at 3:28 pm

      Exactly what I was thinking on this point. And if you need to have a different character to “start a new class”, I’m guessing your (preferred) tag has “SnIpEr” in it. PTFO. You should be changing up your class based on your squad mix, the situation your squad/team is/are in at that moment, and the overall game situation. Try it sometime.

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  21. elitist fAiL
    October 14th, 2011 at 2:28 am

    Ok This is the Final Straw I refuse to get this game for pc now. we have simple things moved to battlelog that we need in game and stupid origin rammed down our throats! COME ON DICE!!!!!!! and Yes I AM TALKING TO YOU DICE BECAUSE THIS IS NOT EA’S FAULT ITS YOURS FOR NOT TRYING TO STOP THEM! U ARE STILL THE DEV TEAM!!!!!!!! ENOUGH WITH THIS DICE FANBOY SHIT I AM F*CKING PISSED!! OH PC IS OUR LEAD LATFORM! BUT PS3 GETS DLC 1 WEEK EARLIER, AND VOIP IS MOVED TO BATTLELOG AND SQUAD MANAGEMENT AND SERVER BROWSER OH ISNT BATTLELOG GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ON RELEASE DAY I WILL START A PETITION AGAINST BATTLELOG! If you agree with me please support if not ill see u on the forums. out.

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    • Gino
      October 14th, 2011 at 2:56 am

      i wish they understood this too but Dice is sitting in the corner with there back’s turned an EA is doing all the bad stuff (well most of it) and dice won’t do anything WHY?!!!

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      • SuperSanity
        October 14th, 2011 at 4:20 am

        Maybe because they can’t do anything? EA bought DICE. That means EA has control. They can kick and scream as much as they want, but if EA wants (or doesn’t want) something, that’s the way it has to be.

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    • -=BwK=-
      October 14th, 2011 at 4:34 am

      I’ve got a theory… The reason we have to use battlelog every time we want to play, whether its single player or multiplayer, is because battlelog will eventually become covered in advertisements. This way, they get tons of money from advertisers because the website has so much traffic. Just a theory.

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    • LoA
      October 14th, 2011 at 8:11 am

      Well, battlelog is fast than an in-game menu, and its actually better. You know why?

      Many friends, you can have platoons, you can group join to servers, the game loads up in the background, instant stats updating, no fucking *updating stats* as fast as you leave a game or log in, no intros, forum is there

      Battlelog, everything on one place. That’s right.

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      • SierraAZ
        October 14th, 2011 at 3:33 pm

        Completely agree. No need for Stats Verse or other third-party add-ons. Plus I can log in form anywhere, not just my gaming PC, and see what’s going on. It actually lowers the barrier of entry into the game, and it eliminates the need to hit the ESC key to skip the intro we all enjoy the first couple times then want to bypass by the fifth session.

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      • Implied
        October 16th, 2011 at 10:06 pm

        The Battlelog idea isn’t half bad. Instead of grinding through streaming in a whole list of Servers for an In-Game Menu, you can Stream them all in through a simple Web Page.

        The problem starts where they complicate things:
        - Plug-In Requirement
        - Battlelog isn’t just a Server Browser, its also a CoD Elite competitor, its Failbook for Battlefield
        - They removed the Game Menu for Battlelog, meaning they basically set a DRM. You can’t launch Campaign without logging into Battlelog, and that requires an Internet Connection, therefore DRM.
        - No In-Game VOIP, dumped in favor of Battlelog VOIP

        - One could say an issue with it is that it requires you to have a Browser Open, which consumes some RAM, and along with Origin they end up consuming a chunk, small/medium/big depending on how much RAM your Rig has.

        If it was just a simple Server Browser people would probably easily get used to it. Its a fine idea, fine design. Problem is, they’ve overblown it, and I’m afraid they’re not going to understand this, meaning with whatever Game comes next (BC3/2143/BF4/whatever), they’ll either do the same thing/worse, or just go back to crappy In-Game Server Browsers.

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        • Implied
          October 16th, 2011 at 10:10 pm

          Note: I agree on the Stats Checking bit, that part of it is nice. There have been Stats Checking Sites for ages, so now its like there’s an Official one for once. The Social Networking parts of Battlelog however are just totally un-necessary, they’re just CoD Elite competition. Difference is, CoD Elite you choose to use. Here, Battlelog isn’t an option.

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      • SnakeBite
        October 25th, 2011 at 11:34 pm

        agreed bro battlelog basicly took all the ingame menus and put them all in one place

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  22. The MAN!!
    October 14th, 2011 at 2:29 am

    Wait the American assault is black now?Time for some “ohhhh yeah” with a Mr.T voice while Rambo reviving.

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  23. Crispen777
    October 14th, 2011 at 2:33 am

    What the fuck is this!!!!?

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  24. Xiphidion
    October 14th, 2011 at 2:37 am

    This sucks, but the game was so damn fun to play on Beta most people are going to submit and play anyway.

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  25. JesterOC
    October 14th, 2011 at 2:39 am

    I think it will cut down on cheating. Every name will be unique, and all games are logged. Perhaps the lack of accountability will bring a bit more order to the game servers.

    Oh, and people need to use good passwords. Pa55W0rd does not cut it anymore.

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    • ayn
      October 14th, 2011 at 3:28 am

      There are other ways of cutting down on cheating. Just because your name in unique doesn’t mean you can’t cheat and vise versa.

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      • -=BwK=-
        October 14th, 2011 at 4:37 am

        I dont mind having one character, i agree it will help with cheating. If a hacker has his/her account banned, he will have to buy another copy if he still wants to play. I actually think its a good idea. They should just have an option to reset your stats, that way if you’re fully maxed out and bored, you could always start over.

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        • ImStalkinYou
          October 14th, 2011 at 7:16 am

          that way, hackers from call of duty will be banned. which at least is a good thing.

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        • Implied
          October 14th, 2011 at 7:57 am

          This isn’t an Anti-Cheating Measure. If EA so much as wanted to they could find out which Account all of your 100+ Characters are associated with, Freeze that, and with it, all your 100+ Characters/Bots.

          This Single-Character thing is a bid to get more Sales from people that like to play with more than 1 Character, and really, its pathetic.

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    • Jason
      October 14th, 2011 at 3:35 pm

      Presumably, cheaters would get account-banned, or IP banned from particular servers. So having a restriction on soldier names wouldn’t help prevent cheating.

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