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On August 28th, 2011 in News

OriginOver the past week, there has been a huge backslash towards EA and their Origin End User Licensee Agreement, which gave EA the right to snoop your computer for all kinds of information and sell it to third parties. The news quickly spread across many gaming sites, including BF3blog.

Apparently, EA has listened to the complaints and has updated their EULA for Origin. It now includes the following addition:

“EA would never sell your personally identifiable information to anyone, nor would it ever use spyware or install spyware on users’ machines. We and agents acting on our behalf do not share information that personally identifies you without your consent, except in rare instances where disclosure is required by law or to enforce EA’s legal rights.”

In addition to that, while EA will still collect data about your PC system, they removed the clause that gave them the right to use the data for marketing purposes.

The new Origin EULA went into effect last Wednesday, and is the result of an outcry from gamers and the gaming community, including us here at BF3blog, EA’s forums, and a group on Reddit. While the EULA still gives EA the right to collect vast amounts of data from you, they won’t sell it to third parties. At least, that’s what they say.

Origin is a big part of Battlefield 3, as it will be required to play the game regardless of where it’s purchased.

Thanks to everyone who sent this in!



82 COMMENTS & TRACKBACKS

  1. Wayne
    August 28th, 2011 at 7:45 pm

    Few days late.

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  2. Kierenblade
    August 28th, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    Good to hear that! *re-downloads porn* ;)

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    • JASHINHUNTER
      August 28th, 2011 at 8:30 pm

      Silly, your meant to put it in a .rar then put that file in another folder than put that folder in a .zip file then encrypt the .zip file with a hard to guess password that only you know in your head… ಠ_ರೃ

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      • WassimSp
        August 28th, 2011 at 9:23 pm

        how do you write the “ಠ” ??
        whats the keyboard keys ?

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      • RavenKaizer
        October 1st, 2011 at 12:27 am

        And change the extention from .zip to something else like .jpg, or .exe

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    • leave no man behind
      August 29th, 2011 at 10:36 am

      it is better with women.

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      • bacix
        August 31st, 2011 at 10:40 am

        you wanker

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  3. Tummynator
    August 28th, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    Hoooraayy!!!

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  4. [AOD] ۜDeathۜ_FĀŦĘ
    August 28th, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    Still not good EA. NOT GOOD.

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    • Hired_Mark
      August 28th, 2011 at 8:49 pm

      “disclosure is required by law or to enforce EA’s legal rights.”

      You mean the law I have to sign away?

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    • NoFreakinIdea
      August 29th, 2011 at 1:04 am

      I know its a bit off topic but im interested in your opinions…
      Some of you said that the lack of steam support and origin wouldnt prevent anyone to buy the game… But what about the attitude of EA? someone said that he is not going to buy BF3 because of EA’s disgusting marketing (i agree on this point), making fun of MW3 for no reason, etc etc. he said they dont deserve his money. What do you think? i personally think that EA’s doing his things pretty bad: forcing us to use Origin, (i dont care about steam tbh), problems with their EULA (finally changed but i wouldnt say im 100% satisfied), weird decisions like no server browsers on PC (sounds quite bad and dramatic for the first read), and their impolite behaviour against COD. i think it IS disgusting. doesnt mean im gonna buy MW3 instead of BF3, im just saying that this attitude might has effect on the sales. only a little bit, though. What do you think? (sorry for off-topic post, but many people mentioned these problems that might reduce the amount of sales.)

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      • [AOD] ۜDeathۜ_FĀŦĘ
        August 29th, 2011 at 1:21 am

        Just try to think of supporting DICE when you buy their game. It’s not like EA had anything to do with actually ‘making’ the game. Aside from, “Change this” “appeal to a wider audience” “go all-console” EA has no real meaning when it comes to the art of designing a video game.

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      • FrusTricK
        August 29th, 2011 at 12:45 pm

        Well The thing is that VALVe used the same tactics EA are using now to force STEAM down peoples throats.

        When Half Life 2 was released you had to download and activate it via STEAM and there were no other ways around it. So basically in other words EA is just doing what VALVe did so I dont really mind Origin at all.
        I found that while STEAM had jumpy download speeds, origin downloads at a standard of 9MB/s on my machine as opposed to STEAM´s shy 2.3 MB/s.

        One thing I didnt like was the fact that Both STEAM and Origin have higher prices on their products than the physical retail boxes here in Sweden, something that makes me question the reason to why I should buy the games straight from the two services when I get a cheaper price (8 bucks less) and more exercise by taking that half an hour walk downtown and buying a physical copy.

        Also, I dont really mind EA looking at what Hardware im running and basic software stuff like OS but they have NOTHING to do with the rest of my system. I will however buy BF3 because I have been anticipating this game for years so for the sake of everybody here I hope EA gets back to the roots of gaming instead of the roots of their market shares in order to win the gaming community and thus making money!

        Who ever said that making tons of money without hard work, is a retard.

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        • Hired_Mark
          August 29th, 2011 at 7:55 pm

          This argument of comparing Steam to Origin marketing isn’t very much compatible due to the wide array of limitations EA imposes on their consumers. Valve only had us to activate HL2 that was it, it is not even a multi-game so we don’t need the need for Steam any further. Also lets not forget the Orange box that was created later on as a big ” I am sowwy !”

          EA – one soldier, one account per game, no server browser forcing us to use another service as well, and the cherry on the cake = PunkBuster

          And frankly, I prefer Steam over Origin due to the level of customer service and the fact I don’t receive spam from Valve, every so often.

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  5. monstercookie123
    August 28th, 2011 at 8:04 pm

    nooooooooo! i deleted all my porn! damn you EA!

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  6. bLuEpInOy
    August 28th, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    They will probably still sell your information behind your back :/…

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  7. Impy
    August 28th, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    One loophole I can see: With Sealed Warrants, Law Enforcement can obtain that data without your knowledge. EA doesn’t have a clause that requires you being informed that Law Enforcement will be given your data. So in the case of a Sealed Warrant, or any Warrant at all, you really have no 100% chance of knowing whether or not you’ll actually be informed that they took your data.

    Hopefully the vast amount of data will go to improving the Origin Client, rather than being stored on some pointless Server for ages for no reason what-so-ever.

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    • Impy
      August 28th, 2011 at 10:22 pm

      Moyrta points out a second one further down in the comments:
      Here’s a second: They can’t sell it. Can they trade it/give it away?

      They say they won’t share information that personally identifies you. System Specs, Applications Installed etc, doesn’t personally identify anyone. The EULA gives them permission to take it, not to sell it, and they can’t give out anything that identifies you specifically, but they can still give it out anonymously, technically. Say AMD asks how many Origin Users are running AMD CPUs/GPUs, or Intel, or Nvidia, or whoever. One simple Hardware Scan, submission of anonymous data to whoever asks, all within the Origin EULA.

      Someone more practiced in Legal could probably pick up a few more Loopholes.

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      • 1
        August 30th, 2011 at 5:14 am

        Not quite true, its a common lie told to people that they are anonymous. ISPs assign ip addresses to customers and log which IP belongs to which person at what time. Your router then uses the IP address and inorder for your PC to get an ip address from your router it needs a network name and a LAN card which has a world wide unique MAC address.

        Network name+ MAC address + IP LOG = Completely Identified User. Any cisco techy can tell you that.

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  8. Flappy
    August 28th, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    I still don’t feel 100% satisfied

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  9. Wait. What?
    August 28th, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    They can SELL it?!

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    • Tummynator
      August 30th, 2011 at 1:50 am

      Yes they can sell your pirated porn and profit off of it just as you profit in a different way :D

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  10. Jason
    August 28th, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    “We and agents acting on our behalf do not share information that personally identifies you without your consent, except in rare instances where disclosure is required by law or to enforce EA’s legal rights.””

    The agents acting on their behalf (Lawyers) dont share information that personally identifies you, “except in rare instances where disclosure is required by law or to enforce EA’s legal rights.” Meaning if Origin finds any pirated EA games, I promise that you’ll probably be getting sued.

    That is all that this means, so do not install origin if you have pirated EA games on your pc.

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  11. JASHINHUNTER
    August 28th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    EA are trying to look good :shock:

    Origin is actually pretty good now that I have tested it out, I don’t like that it was using over 100mb of memory when running, but other than that, it’s pretty much a steam clone with only EA games.

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  12. WassimSp
    August 28th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    nothing for me to worry about , weather it is the pirated porn/music/movies/windows/games , maybe the computer it self is pirated !!
    haha ! :D

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  13. Luka Mijic
    August 28th, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    don’t be sad if you removed all your porn.. Just go to redtube :P

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  14. Colt_Gun
    August 28th, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    well that’s a relief. *deletes all normal porn*… >_>

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  15. Gabe "GabeN" Newell
    August 28th, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    Ah, yes. Thank you. Well, back to my delicious yuri hentai. *fap fap fap*

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    • WassimSp
      August 28th, 2011 at 9:18 pm

      DUDE NOT COOL ! watch real life porn … its better for “faping”

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    • Luka Mijic
      August 28th, 2011 at 9:25 pm

      hentai? pls don’t tell you watch those creepy alien porns? -_-

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      • Colt_Gun
        August 29th, 2011 at 12:11 am

        nah, tentacle rape is where its AT!

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      • Gabe "GabeN" Newell
        August 29th, 2011 at 1:21 am

        But the orgasm in hentai is cute D:
        And hentai is also ironically hilarious, because japs make themselves bigger wangs, even though IRL their’s are about an inch long.
        Azns need a willy pump for 100 dorrars.

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        • Luka Mijic
          August 29th, 2011 at 1:24 am

          ohh dear Lord… guys is this bf blog or porn site?? I see more comments about pornography then battlefield it’s self LOL :D

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        • Negativzero
          August 29th, 2011 at 3:32 pm

          yeah everyone watches hentai :33
          :D

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  16. Moyrta
    August 28th, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    From what I understand they can trade our personal information in exchange for free marketing or something like that. So third party companies can still get our information from EA if they don’t give any money

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  17. Sgt.Zell
    August 28th, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    IT’S A TRAP !

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  18. mayrbek
    August 28th, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    fuck this
    why dont they just close origin
    why does EA even care about pc gamers
    i know they dont care about us but they made that origin
    why even bother
    no one will use it

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    • nohablo
      August 28th, 2011 at 10:53 pm

      no 1 will use it u say then u play not ea says

      its needed to play bf3

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  19. leave no man behind
    August 28th, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    its more fun with a women rather than your own hand. it’s a promise!

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    • Colt_Gun
      August 29th, 2011 at 12:12 am

      (on an unrelated note)

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  20. BMW
    August 28th, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    Good EA, a step in the right way :)

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  21. Conzul
    August 28th, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    It Begins.

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  22. Shadow|NZ
    August 28th, 2011 at 11:15 pm

    coughs time to uninstall cracked nfs

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    • Hired_Mark
      August 29th, 2011 at 8:00 pm

      Clean your registry as well, as the log of the game will remain.

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  23. Ken J
    August 29th, 2011 at 2:03 am

    Ok people, stop using Twitter, Facebook, Steam, Origin, your cell phone, and anything that uses the internet. Go ahead and read all of their EULA’s…

    *rolls eyes*

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    • Moyrta
      August 29th, 2011 at 11:09 am

      That’s why I don’t have any social network accounts. And have you read Steams EULA yourself or your just speculating?

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  24. John
    August 29th, 2011 at 2:38 am

    hey guys, what parts of your old pc can you use to build a new pc, like reusable parts? Im planning to make a new pc.
    Thanks

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    • spelt
      August 29th, 2011 at 5:21 am

      Since you mentioned “old”, I am assuming you won’t be using the same motherboard. If that is the case, these are usually the parts the can be moved over to a new build:

      hard drives
      disc drives
      keyboard
      mouse
      power supply (only if it will meet the power requirements of your new build)
      computer case ~ if it will fit the motherboard you are changing to (either micro atx or regular atx form factor)

      Parts I’m assuming you will purchase new:

      motherboard
      cpu
      ram sticks
      Operating system (or if you know how to transfer to a new machine)
      power supply (old one isnt sufficient)

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      • spelt
        August 29th, 2011 at 5:22 am

        forgot about the videocard,.

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  25. xCryonic
    August 29th, 2011 at 3:29 am

    Thanks EA, I knew that you couldn’t do that to us.

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