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On August 29th, 2011 in News

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It’s been disappointing for PC game modders that Battlefield 3 won’t ship with mod tools, because the new Frostbite 2.0 engine is simply too complex for modders to use, not to mention there are tricky licensing issues with third party software used in Frostbite.

But according to DICE’s general manager Karl-Magnus Troedsson, DICE has heard the community and their wishes, and said in recent interview with AusGamers,

“We have heard the community very loud and clear on this topic — that they want mod tools. We are considering it, back in the studio. The game won’t ship with mod tools, but we have heard it. I’m not saying that we’re going to do it, I’m saying that we are thinking about it.”

Troedsson also said that Battlefield 3 is “the biggest thing we’ve ever done”, and that they simply cannot do everything and add all features gamers demand. As he put it, “we have to select what it is we’re going to spend our focus on”.

Battlefield 2 didn’t ship with mod tools at launch either, the mod tools were released a few months after the game sipped. The tools allowed popular mods to emerge, mods like Point of Existence and Project Reality. Since then, mod support has been limited in Battlefield games.

A previous version of this article mentioned that Battlefield 2 shipped with mod tools. That is incorrect, mod tools for BF2 were released a few months after the game shipped.



101 COMMENTS & TRACKBACKS

  1. TheHwacha
    August 29th, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    That is it… I’m sure now. DICE are sent by aliens to save our civilization.
    Finally a company that cares about it’s customers.

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    • silverbullet
      August 29th, 2011 at 8:06 pm

      if it really cared it wouldnt have EA as a publisher -_-

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      • Impy
        August 29th, 2011 at 8:15 pm

        Its not a choice. EA bought out DICE a few years back, now EA calls all the shots, so all Battlefield Games are forced through EA.

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        • 1
          August 30th, 2011 at 5:39 am

          What’s the point of modding when you cannot play or host your content without buying a server from EA?

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        • TOCS
          August 30th, 2011 at 5:47 am

          Yeah, I’d rather have a dedicated non-ranked LAN option like in Battlefield 2, rather than mod tools. There’ll be a few years before people gets bored of this, so mod tools could wait. LAN parties are still really active, and I know that by experience.

          Me and my dad used to create this LAN parties on his work, and together with his colleagues, friends etc. we managed to be about 30 – 32 players. It was a lot of fun playing Battlefield this way, and we’ve been doing it for 10 years now. It’d be great if they’d consider this as well.

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        • Jason
          August 30th, 2011 at 5:26 pm

          EA bought out DICE stock and barrel in 2006, but they’ve been publishing DICE games since Battlefield 1942. You can’t blame the lack of mod support on EA, they’ve ALWAYS had a very strong influence on DICE. The reason DICE isn’t launching BF3 with mod tools is exactly for the reason DICE had previously stated – developing mod tools takes time, and DICE would rather develop the game itself and worry about features like mod tools and Battlerecorder later rather than sooner..

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        • strych9
          September 6th, 2011 at 5:56 am

          as much as i love mods, EA wont release them. seriously, EA wants money(dont we all), why would they release mod tools for someone to make new maps and vehicles, when they can make them and charge you an extra 15 bucks? they already have an expansion pack, and the game hasn’t even been released yet. ask yourself, if there was 10 mods with 10 maps each, would you pay 15 bucks for 4 maps frome ea?

          P.S. original mod tools for 1942 and bf2 were not made by dice. they were made by the community.

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  2. @AndriesVDB
    August 29th, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    This news is over 2 months old… Get some new stuff please.

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  3. Impy
    August 29th, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    OH PLEASE. I’LL BUY THE GAME.

    JUST PROMISE US FROSTBITE 2 MODS. PLEASE. PLEEEEEEEEEEASE. TOO EPIC TO PASS UP!!!!!

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    • Impy
      August 29th, 2011 at 8:14 pm

      Sorry, delete plox. Thought I canceled the page before it got through.

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  4. [AOD] ۜDeathۜ_FĀŦĘ
    August 29th, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    I KNEW they could do it. There will always be modders who are good enough to use even the most complex of tools. Awesome news Dice, now make it work! I want some Frostbite 2 Project Reality…

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    • leave no man behind
      August 29th, 2011 at 8:46 pm

      OMG!! imagine project reality 2!! Dice please give us mod tools. Im sure that you will earn even more money if you decide to do so.

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    • Luka Mijic
      August 29th, 2011 at 9:15 pm

      Oh my God. Project reality in battlefield 3? with frostbite 2 engine. IT would be awesome. I bet DICE can make it happen :D

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      • maxbox99
        August 29th, 2011 at 9:44 pm

        Project reality on battlefield 3 is just something you cant imagine.

        Project reality V1.0 on battlefield 3?

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    • 1
      August 30th, 2011 at 5:39 am

      Hate to burst your dream but what’s the point of modding when you cannot play or host your content without buying a server from EA?

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      • [AOD] ۜDeathۜ_FĀŦĘ
        August 30th, 2011 at 5:15 pm

        Do you know how powerful a server you would need to have to host a 64 player game of bf3? It is the right move to go with commercial server hosts.

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  5. Hired_Mark
    August 29th, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    DICE>EA

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  6. Brandonian
    August 29th, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    YESSSSSS!!!!!!!! YESSSS!!!!!!

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  7. Hired_Mark
    August 29th, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    Whilst we are at it DICE how about some MP tutorials for all the new crowd you are attracting?

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    • ryan
      August 30th, 2011 at 10:49 am

      It is a great idea.. so newbes would not ruin the game thinking that they rambo and they can win by themselves.

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  8. FrusTricK
    August 29th, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    Well this is interesting, its like DICE is whispering to us: * we want too but we cant at the moment*
    *points at EA*
    *wife dont like when I spend too much time with you and instead want me to make exess amounts of money for her fuckin jewelry…*

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    • NoFreakinIdea
      August 30th, 2011 at 12:39 pm

      now that f*king made my day. :D

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  9. Gomezgee
    August 29th, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    I think if it is what PC players want then they should get it as long as the mod’s won’t allow people to spoil the gameplay and totaly dominate matches, i just hope that they don’t bring mod’s accross to consoles because i don’t like modders who spoil games and make it horrible for otheres, i say let PC have mod’s because they work on PC’s but keep them away from consoles, please

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    • SsK
      August 29th, 2011 at 8:17 pm

      dido bro, some people( imature people that can play fair) take atvatage of these things i dont give 2 shits if its on pc but if they bring to consoles forget about it, console players will take atvange of this, and ruin it for the guys who want a fair fight not to mation moded controlers…….. dorks!!!! learn how to fight fair. long live bf3

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      • CallofDutyBadCompany--
        August 29th, 2011 at 8:26 pm

        I don’t think that you understand what mod tools are or even what a mod really is.

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      • Teddy
        August 29th, 2011 at 9:01 pm

        Mod tools have nothing at all to do with what most console only players are aware of as “mods”. What they are, is a set of tools that allows people to create new maps, new vehicles, new weapons and the like.

        Because of the nature of the server browser, compared to the standard console “Play Now” button style connection, you can NEVER connect to a server that’s running a mod without knowing about it beforehand. It simply cannot happen.

        To connect to a server that’s running a modification, YOU have to have first installed the mod into your own game, and then YOU have to actively look for servers that are running the same mod. Without doing both of those things, you will only ever end up playing a standard game.

        Again, “modded lobbies” from console games have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT ALL to do with the mod tools that PC players are always asking about.

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        • Tummynator
          August 30th, 2011 at 1:42 am

          Thanks to you guys for clearing this up for some console players .. mods are what makes a game have so much replay value as well and not to mention they are free!!!

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      • J4MI3
        August 29th, 2011 at 9:47 pm

        have you ever played a MOD?

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    • NoFreakinIdea
      August 29th, 2011 at 8:25 pm

      you obviously have no clue about modding a PC game do you?
      its not about “modded lobbies” like in “other” games… it doesnt mean that everyone’s gonna fly around like an idiot… But im not gonna explain cause im tired to do that (its midnight here)
      —–
      Glad to hear this, i think modders/mod lovers wont be let down. It’s not sure that but who knows. we might get some mod tools after release:D

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      • LoA
        August 29th, 2011 at 8:31 pm

        Let me do it. :)

        So a mod on the PC is, maybe a community-made map, that maybe one guy or a group of friends have made, so other can play on it.

        Or, you can get a complete mod like Project Reality. Everything is changed there, its really awesome. Just look at Left 4 Dead 2, the community have made MANY awesome chapters there, its like free DLC.

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        • joongoon
          August 29th, 2011 at 9:22 pm

          i like how these 2 guys have no idea what mod tools are, why would dice release a tool that made the game worse lol.

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        • fR33kSt3R
          September 1st, 2011 at 8:50 pm

          Cuz it could make the game better if the tools are put in the right hands..

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  10. Who?
    August 29th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    I have an URGENT issue. Ok , so my brother is 11 years old and I am 16 years old. He is a massive Call of Duty fanboy (lol stereotypical). One day I was sitting on my laptop checking out on bf3blog, then I went to my room and catch him playing bfbc2. Oh no *in a family guy way*. So I’m like “ok it’s his first time, he wont like it”. The next day he plays it again and the day after and so on until he plays it everyday. I took the disc out and said ” c’mon I need to play with my friends”. He then cried to my mum and I got banned for a week. WHAT SHOULD I DO!?

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    • Tummynator
      August 29th, 2011 at 8:47 pm

      email jerry springer and request that he help solve the problem of your brother cheating on cod with your bfbc

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      • J4MI3
        August 29th, 2011 at 9:50 pm

        a truly epic comment pal.

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        • Tummynator
          August 30th, 2011 at 1:43 am

          JER-RY JER-RY JER-RY JER-RY

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      • Who?
        August 29th, 2011 at 10:42 pm

        LOL I will ;)

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    • leave no man behind
      August 29th, 2011 at 8:52 pm

      you should tell your mum that to play bf3 you have to be 18 years old.

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    • [AOD] ۜDeathۜ_FĀŦĘ
      August 29th, 2011 at 8:59 pm

      Bc2 costs like 8.99 right now. Just get another copy and play with your brother!

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      • legoingrdaproplayer
        August 30th, 2011 at 8:19 am

        Bother not brother!

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        • ϟKRI||ƩX
          August 31st, 2011 at 3:07 am

          Brother, not bother.

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    • Jason
      August 30th, 2011 at 5:12 am

      You should let him keep the Bad Company 2, because it proves that he has true taste in a good game, and then you go buy another reasonably priced copy- AS LONG AS neither of you ever buy a mic.

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  11. Impy
    August 29th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    PLEASE YES. TOO EPIC TO PASS UP!!!!

    That would be a ridiculously good way to bring in some extra Sales, not to mention make the Community a lot happier. Mod Tools for Frostbite 2 would be awesome. The level of detail and the Graphics we’ve so far seen with Battlefield 3 promise some epic Mod Tools, if they choose to release them in the end.

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  12. zzerDrezz
    August 29th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
  13. Olls
    August 29th, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    I was playing Forgoten Hope 2 today with a tear in my eye. I was afraid of if BF3 woulden’t get mod-tools someday FH2 will die, but this new information made my day.

    Snälla DICE! Ge oss Mod-tools!

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  14. JASHINHUNTER
    August 29th, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    If you let DICE do that EA…… HANDS DOWN YOU WILL BE BETTER THAN ACTIVISION IN EVERY WAY!!!1

    Do you know how awesome mod tools made BF2?

    VERY.

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    • mrizzel
      August 29th, 2011 at 9:40 pm

      they’d still be shit… you know.. origin and stuff. did you realise mw3 will use steamworks? just sayin’ (i FUCKING LOVE BF and don’t really like COD but..)

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  15. A gamer
    August 29th, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    they should do something like Crisis 2 did release mod tools later

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  16. LogiQue
    August 29th, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    There is no time for consideration, if community wants it, just give it to them!

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  17. Chriddof
    August 29th, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    If only DICE were publishers of the game too. Screw EA. But if there was no EA they wouldn’t have this much commercial success.
    Goddammit, I really hope BF3 builds up enough hype for DICE to become independent from Electronic Jews. I really want it to happen one day. Go DICE!

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  18. joongoon
    August 29th, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    i dont know about you guys but i couldnt stop looking at the picture of the mosque, i barely even read the other stuff, this is my favorite BF3 screenshot.

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  19. Alvatraust
    August 29th, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    This is awesome for the pc gamers.

    I’m a hardcore console gamer. Maybe oneday consoles will be powerful enough for mod tools and cross platform play.

    Go bf3blog and DICE!

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  20. =Romagnolo=
    August 29th, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    Niiiiiiice!

    Now imagine this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvWXZhcjkxo with BF3 engine!

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    • GMS 95
      August 30th, 2011 at 12:20 am

      That’s sick. With Frostbite 2 that would be INSANE!!! Almost too real to be a game :D

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  21. Luka Mijic
    August 29th, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    Well BF3 is indeed the biggest thing you’ve ever done… First off all: game looks amazing, and I can’t wait to play it, and even with a frostbite2 engine (which is too complex for modders to use) they will try to add mod tools which means it’s possible. Now we really see what is DICE capable of. I wish you luck guys!! :)

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  22. Rev
    August 29th, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    Sadly I think this is just a marketing stunt to counteract all the negative press EA has been getting over the other odd decisions they have made with this game. Remember they said the exact same thing about BFBC2, that never happened ;) surprise surprise I know.

    Dice may truly want to release mods, but EA will never let this happen. Times have changed and I doubt any of us will ever see mod tools or the ability to create maps ever again or at least in the foreseeable future (on a AAA title). EA, Activision and the other big publishes just have us by the balls now with the DLC thing. Before we used to be able to have our talented friends create mods/maps for us for free but that time has gone bye bye.

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  23. R
    August 29th, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    yeah they thought about it. They thought about it in the sense of what to say to not make it look too bad when they were gonna tell us no mod tools. I dont blame them if indeed it is as hard as they say but at the same time mw3 has mod tools so yeah(and I get it with the different game and what not but the point still stands). If anything they’d have to be braindead to not think about putting mod tools in, they are still DICE and I would not expect anything less than them atleast giving it a shot(but probably coming up short due to the insurmountable task etc).

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  24. NoFreakinIdea
    August 29th, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    When will BF3BLOG upload these new infos?
    EOD Bot
    - Can be placed on the ground
    - Player switches to camera view on EOD Bot
    - Capable of Arming/Defusing MCOMS
    - Can repair vehicles or torch players/vehicles

    Radio Beacon
    - Acts as a spawn point
    - Model looks like a little radio
    - Can be placed anywhere

    Micro UAV
    - Is thrown onto the ground
    - Play switches to UAV Camera
    - can push the EOD Bot around
    - Used for spotting enemies
    - No Weapons but to be added?

    Radar Beacon
    - Can be placed on the ground
    - Scans area for enemies
    - Only available to Recon Class

    Smoke Grenades
    - Could be used to cover a choke point entirely
    - Should be used to hide a wave of EOD Bots attacking.

    :D :D

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    • Toshiro
      August 29th, 2011 at 11:05 pm

      Sources?

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    • Damascus
      August 29th, 2011 at 11:46 pm

      Radio Beacon=Tactical insertion?
      I hope some of that is wrong cuz I don’t want any type of tactical insertion in this game although the could come in handy alot more than they did in Cod.

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    • Jason
      August 30th, 2011 at 5:08 am

      Awesome news that the EOD bot can Arm/disarm Mcom stations, thats extremely BAMF, my friend.

      And I can see it now, a cloud of smoke billowing from 8 smoke grenades and out comes a battalion of EOD bots making its way across a field with epic exlposions going off and a sniper laying in a bush being useless just watching in amazement :P

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    • NoFreakinIdea
      August 30th, 2011 at 12:48 pm

      Sorry. Source: TheEnd004500′s channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/TheEnd004500)
      He got his source from Battlefieldo.com as far as i know.
      @Damascus: same thoughts

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    • NoFreakinIdea
      August 30th, 2011 at 1:00 pm

      little correction (i also posted this to TheEnd’s video)
      The Micro-uav isnt really a UAV, since its not aerial, its thrown on the ground. (UAV=Unmanned AERIAL Vehicle. :D )
      But the purpose is the same: Spotting, scouting.

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  25. Tenzing
    August 29th, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    Yes, if this happen then somebody might make a……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………… Dino survival mode!

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    • JASHINHUNTER
      August 29th, 2011 at 10:23 pm

      And we all know how much DICE love dinosaurs.

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